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stillnosheep
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First go home to Australia.
Then apply for WHV.
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real2104
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Going "home" isn't an option.... It was expensive flying out from Australia to China, and unfortunately I don't have the money to book a fligh back to Australia, pay for living expenses in Aust PLUS pay for a ticket to Japan.
Is there a way I can be succesful in my visa application without the expense of going back to Australia??? |
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chollimaspeed
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| nick2124 wrote: |
Going "home" isn't an option.... It was expensive flying out from Australia to China, and unfortunately I don't have the money to book a fligh back to Australia, pay for living expenses in Aust PLUS pay for a ticket to Japan.
Is there a way I can be succesful in my visa application without the expense of going back to Australia??? |
Usually when a visa requirement stipulates that you must be in your home country to apply then you must be in your home country to apply. You want to figure out how you can do it without wanting to be in your home country to apply but that will be difficult to do as you must be in your home country to apply. Errmm, I'm not sure what kind of advice you are looking for...
Do you see the problem? |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, Nick. Visa regulations like that one are almost always inflexible. If they clearly state you must be in your home country to apply then that's what you must do. I have never heard of anyone getting one outside their home country. They don't care that it's not an option for you. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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nick,
The WHV regulations are clear. If you aren't home, you can't apply, and no one can apply in your place for you.
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II. Procedure
The applicant must apply for a visa in person.
Applications submitted by agents or group will not be accepted.
Place:
All application documents must be submitted to the nearest Embassy or Consulate-General of Japan in the applicant's country of residence.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/programme.html#1 |
Can't afford to go home, etc.? Then you have to face up to facts and rule out getting a WHV until you can afford it.
Nobody here can give you the loophole you are looking for. It doesn't exist. Move on. It's student visa or cultural visa or nothing (which includes staying where you are until you have enough funds to manage something that we've already begun to run into the ground). |
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groothewanderer
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| nick2124 wrote: |
Going "home" isn't an option.... It was expensive flying out from Australia to China, and unfortunately I don't have the money to book a fligh back to Australia, pay for living expenses in Aust PLUS pay for a ticket to Japan.
Is there a way I can be succesful in my visa application without the expense of going back to Australia??? |
Earth to Nick: No Japan for you. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| nick2124 wrote: |
Is there a way I can be succesful in my visa application without the expense of going back to Australia??? |
No.
HTH,
G. |
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real2104
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate the replies.
I definitely realize the problem... and feel very dissapointed.
The best I can get is a 90 day maximum 'holiday' in Japan... perhaps during those 90 days I could do some work as a freelance tutor? |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| nick2124 wrote: |
I appreciate the replies.
I definitely realize the problem... and feel very dissapointed.
The best I can get is a 90 day maximum 'holiday' in Japan... perhaps during those 90 days I could do some work as a freelance tutor? |
True, but there is no way you'd recoup anywhere near your expenses during that time. Private students don't fall on your lap. |
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chollimaspeed
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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| nick2124 wrote: |
I appreciate the replies.
I definitely realize the problem... and feel very dissapointed.
The best I can get is a 90 day maximum 'holiday' in Japan... perhaps during those 90 days I could do some work as a freelance tutor? |
It is possible. That would be illegal of course and might be a little difficult to do on such a short term basis for a variety of reasons.
Also there are certain unscrupulous outfits in Japan who try to gull newcomers with no visas into working for them. The penalty for doing that if you're caught is up to 30 days detention, a three million yen fine and deportation. So don't fall for one of those companies.
My own advice would be to either go back to Oz and finish your education, save up in China until you can make it back to Oz to get your WHV or simply go to Japan on holiday.
Private tutoring won't provide you with enough cash to get by so you will need quite a lot to begin with. |
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bornslippy1981
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| chollimaspeed wrote: |
| nick2124 wrote: |
I appreciate the replies.
I definitely realize the problem... and feel very dissapointed.
The best I can get is a 90 day maximum 'holiday' in Japan... perhaps during those 90 days I could do some work as a freelance tutor? |
It is possible. That would be illegal of course and might be a little difficult to do on such a short term basis for a variety of reasons.
Also there are certain unscrupulous outfits in Japan who try to gull newcomers with no visas into working for them. The penalty for doing that if you're caught is up to 30 days detention, a three million yen fine and deportation. So don't fall for one of those companies.
My own advice would be to either go back to Oz and finish your education, save up in China until you can make it back to Oz to get your WHV or simply go to Japan on holiday.
Private tutoring won't provide you with enough cash to get by so you will need quite a lot to begin with. |
Howdy C,
Your post reminded me of somebody who posted about two years ago saying he came here without a visa and was working at a place which let him go after a week. He thought he could make loads of money because he did in other countries, but the surplus of teachers didn't allow for him to make 90,000 Yen/hour.
Anyway, it's good to put things in prospective for people who don't have much knowledge or experience with Japan.
Enjoy,
B |
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chollimaspeed
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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| Yeah, where have all those 90,000 yen an hour jobs gone? I blame NOVA. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bornslippy1981 wrote: |
Howdy C,
Your post reminded me of somebody who posted about two years ago saying he came here without a visa and was working at a place which let him go after a week. He thought he could make loads of money because he did in other countries, but the surplus of teachers didn't allow for him to make 90,000 Yen/hour. |
If memory serves me correctly, he didn't even get paid for that week or so that he was "employed" in. Hard to tell if the school genuinely didn't like him, or if they were always firing people without visas after only a short while and thus avoiding paying any wages. Either way, exploiting you generally is what "employers" can and will do if you start working illegally. |
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groothewanderer
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| stillnosheep wrote: |
First go home to Australia.
Then apply for WHV. |
This is what you should do. |
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chollimaspeed
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| bornslippy1981 wrote: |
Howdy C,
Your post reminded me of somebody who posted about two years ago saying he came here without a visa and was working at a place which let him go after a week. He thought he could make loads of money because he did in other countries, but the surplus of teachers didn't allow for him to make 90,000 Yen/hour. |
If memory serves me correctly, he didn't even get paid for that week or so that he was "employed" in. Hard to tell if the school genuinely didn't like him, or if they were always firing people without visas after only a short while and thus avoiding paying any wages. Either way, exploiting you generally is what "employers" can and will do if you start working illegally. |
No, the guy used his first lesson to talk about the time he went to jail. The school fired him and as he left the place he protested "But I was INNOCENT!" |
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