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killian



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: how long is a "teaching hour"? Reply with quote

how long is a "teaching hour" as in "...teacher will teach 100 teaching hours..." ?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually 40 to 50 minutes
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it depends
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
it depends


Gordon's right. It depends on the country and the employer. Some places - particularly when teaching children - that hour might be only 40 minutes.

But - some employers, when computing your wages, may compute that 40 minutes as only 2/3rds of an hour. I've only worked places with 50 and 60 minute classroom hours.

It is an important issue to clarify BEFORE you sign a contract.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And when they compute those forty minutes as only 2/3 of an hour, then if you have a maximum of four teaching hours a day, then they will give you five classes (or in the case of my old Board of Education, when you had a maximum of three 50 minute junior high classes with a Japanese Teacher of English per day, that somehow translated to five or occasionally six 45 minute elementary classes with a Home Room Teacher who spoke zero English and just stood at the back of the room, or would try to leave and get a cup of coffee, per day).
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Time Reply with quote

Call me old-fashioned, but an hour is sixty minutes. Whoever dreamt up the concept of the "teaching hour" and the "pedagogical hour" should have been sentenced to clean Imelda Marcos' shoes for thirty years, whatever that is in teaching hours.
Why can't managers say "a fifty-minute lesson"?
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killian



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, it is all pretty innane. the recruiter tells you a teaching hour is a class session. then you take the long flight, get to the school and a teaching hour is now sixty minutes.

the difference? 100 classes vs. 130 classes.
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malu



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is something you need to clarify before accepting a position. My present employer calls single class sessions of 40 minutes 'teaching hours' and, fortunately, my contractual obligations are stated in 'teaching hours'.

I used to work for a school where teaching hours were 50 mins each but hours for pay calculation were 60 minutes. Not nice! Especially as this wasn't very clear in the contract - but partly my fault for not checking.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not really anything to get super stressed over - things are different in different places. Things are not always defined the way we would like or think them to be. Such is life overseas.

Just get it clear on your contract - at least ASK before you take job: "How long is a contact/classroom hour?" and "How are my wages computed?" (seems a common sense question, no?)
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would break it down like this in my experience in Korea and Taiwan. If you work at a real school or university you will usually be paid per class if you don't have a monthly salary. When working at a language school then expect the owner to pay you for every 60 minutes you teach. The owners really want to get every penny out of you.
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
If you work at a real school or university you will usually be paid per class if you don't have a monthly salary.


There is a very noticeable difference between being paid per class and just getting a monthly salary! I've only had one job that didn't pay a flat salary, and calculating the exact number of hours (minus cancellations, for which we did not get paid) was stressful!

I have also been lucky enough to have a job that a) paid a monthly salary and b) gave us 45-minute lessons or 90-minute lessons but counted them in our schedule as 1- or 2-hour classes. So whatever your shedule said about how many hours you had, you actually taught a bit less. It was a very pro-teacher thing to do, I thought.

Actually, come to think of it, a few places that I've taught at--minus the hourly one--have worked like that. Smile

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tatterdemalion



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "teaching hour" is a weasel phrase, the true meaning of which varies from one employer to the next.

Ask yours!

Many postings will specify. Others won't. I've seen a contract where "20 teaching hours" was specified, and when clarified, it turned out to mean thirty classes, each forty minutes long. I was glad I didn't take that one.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought the "teaching hour" factored in prep time. For example, if I were to teach 20 academic hours a week, then I'd expect my work week to be 30 "real" hours due to preparation. Personally, I require more prep time than that, but this was my (perhaps erroneous) understanding on the subject.
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groothewanderer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

60 minutes.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In company classes the hour (and pay) starts on time i.e. you are paid for the time the class is scheduled for. Here in Mexico, the actual teaching time depends on the puntuality of the students.

We have a saying in Mexico that even a morning class starts at (for example) 8.00PM - PM = Punctualidad Mexicana (Mexican Punctuality) Very Happy
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