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harry the hobbit
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 78 Location: middle earth east anatolia
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: The Kingdom with Jennifer Garner |
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What do you all think of this new movie? Shame the oilworkers compound is outside Riyadh instead of in Eastern Province but why let facts get in the way of a good story. Jennifer Garner has the greatest arms.
The Kingdom
Jamie Foxx leads a crack FBI response team on a hush-hush mission into Saudi Arabia after US oil workers and their families are wiped out in a terrorist attack. Their mission is to track down the shady killers...but they've also got to contend with hostility from the Saudi bureaucracy and a religious regime way out of their comfort zone. Michael "Heat" Mann produces and Peter Berg directs this efficient action thriller.
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Stars: Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Garner, Jason Bateman, Chris Cooper
Director: Peter Berg
Year: 2007
Running time: 109 mins
Certificate: 15
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The Kingdom Official Website
America's self-styled role as the world's policeman dispensing justice with lantern-jawed fairness gets another run-out.
More than 100 American oil workers and their families are murdered in a terrorist attack on their compound on the outskirts of the Saudi capital Riyadh.
The American people want action. Nay, they demand revenge...but the balance of power in the Middle East is such that the usual carpet bombing is out of the question.
No, a softly-softly approach is required. Which, in this case, means blackmailing the Saudi ambassador into allowing an FBI forensic unit into the country to sift the carnage for evidence.
Jamie Foxx and his team have just five days to unobtrusively pinpoint the whereabouts of the cowardly assassins and - what's the phrase? - terminate with extreme prejudice.
However, they face an added complication with the bloody-mindedness of Saudi officialdom and the restrictions of a delicate operation in a hostile environment.
As a lean, efficient action thriller, Peter Berg's topical tale delivers on all fronts, particularly a closing action sequence which takes its lead from Bourne in a heart-pounding sequence of pure adrenalin.
Where's it falls down is portraying a political world of post-September 11 wish fulfilment where no-one but Uncle Sam has the resources, integrity or scientific nous to sort this bloody mess out.
You can't expect a Saudi forensics team to spot shards of glass in a bomb victim's flesh and then put them all together to reconstitute a marble. No, Jennifer Garner has to do that.
You can't even trust these dithering Arabs to correctly comb a blast site for crucial, incriminating evidence. No, that's Chris Cooper's bag.
What you can expect of the Saudis is bureaucratic stonewalling with only Ashraf Barhom's police colonel Al Ghazi offering a resonable level of co-operation.
At the end of the day, it's a supremely efficient action caper handicapped by a political dimension drawn straight from a Neocon wish-list.
Think Team America with the radiators turned up....
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Kingdom with Jennifer Garner |
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Another Mickey Mouse film directed by Uncle Sam and made in Hollywood!
harry the hobbit wrote: |
Where's it falls down is portraying a political world of post-September 11 wish fulfilment where no-one but Uncle Sam has the resources, integrity or scientific nous to sort this bloody mess out. |
In reality and in ground, with all his resources, integrity, and his spy satellites, Uncle Sam has failed in his mission to catch Bin Landen and his associates! |
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globalnomad2

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 562
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'll tell you about reality, because I'm in the oil-and-gas industry now and those in the know tell me the Saudis censored what really happened in Khobar. What happened was, the thugs had plenty of time to do whatever they wanted once they gained access to the compound, and what they did was go from office to office, separating westerners, and slitting the throat of every westerner they could find.
The film is in essence correct...Saudi authorities are often either incompetent or in league with the murderers. |
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harry the hobbit
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 78 Location: middle earth east anatolia
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'll tell you about reality-everybody knew about what really happened in Khobar. Incompetent-no kidding is that why the real work is done by foreigners. |
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'll tell you about reality, because I'm in the oil-and-gas industry now and those in the know tell me the Saudis censored what really happened in Khobar. |
The real inside story, huh?
I like your sense of irony and sarcasm, Globalnomad.
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globalnomad2

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 562
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect that some oil people do know what really happened. I hardly think that concept is bizarre. |
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harry the hobbit
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 78 Location: middle earth east anatolia
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Suspect? You said you had the real inside story despite the fact that everyone already knew the real inside story. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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We even had a link or two here to writings by people there - or they may have been sent to me by PM. The whole situation led to a lot of teachers departing the country for a year or two.
No real mysteries except for the newbies.
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harry the hobbit
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 78 Location: middle earth east anatolia
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Even the venerable Scot 57 left. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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scot47 did indeed flee, but he returned soon after, much chastened by the horrors of life outside the Magic Kingdom.
As for scot57 ? Who is he ? |
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globalnomad2

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 562
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well I didn't know what really had happened in Saudi until I joined the oil-and-gas industry last month in a place far, far away from the Middle East. Maybe because I left the stupid Kingdom 11 years ago and haven't given it a thought since then except for the occasional nightmare. MOD EDIT
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
scot47 did indeed flee, but he returned soon after, much chastened by the horrors of life outside the Magic Kingdom. |
Really, Scot you did flee the magic kingdom? I did not know that, why did you not call me at that time to come to your rescue?
Was life outside the magic kingdom really horrible?
Why there is no good life outside the Magic Kingdom? You should have tried Somalia or Yemen!
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As for scot57 ? Who is he ? |
It seems He made you younger by 10 years!  |
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harry the hobbit
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 78 Location: middle earth east anatolia
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Now Scot can work another ten years at the best uni in Middle East. |
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mishmumkin
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 929
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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As for scot57 ? Who is he ? |
The newer model, though he's still in BETA and has lots of bugs.
At least The Kingdom sorta attempted to show a more 'human' side to the people in the region-something historically Hollywood has failed to do. But what's up w/ J. Garner in her clinging top?! VS, I know we discussed it elsewhere, but at least try to make it seem real. Jason Batemen: I swear I was watching Arrested DEvelopment at several points during the film. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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I hardly think working in the 'oil and gas industry' - presumably as an ESL teacher - automatically gives one some sort of insiders' knowledge into the activity of militants in KSA. Besides, rumours of official complicity in the attacks were widespread surfaced almost immediately after the events - there's nothing new or exclusive about them.
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haven't given it a thought since then except for the occasional nightmare. |
And except for your frequent posts on the Saudi board.
As for the film, I've not seen it and have no particular desire to see it. Most reviewers say it's not bad, but not great either, with a rather mundane plot and the inevitable US jinogisim thrown in. |
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