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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: TEFLed out Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
thrifty wrote:
Try applying for a job in translation when all you have got is, I picked up the language whilst I was TEFLing.

Laughing
And even then only the slang.


No, I speak a foreign language fluently Embarassed
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Henry_Cowell



Joined: 27 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
50-60 hours a week-you will be doing that in TEFL if you want to make ends meet.

I don't. I bet Stephen doesn't either. Laughing
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither do I but you, Stephan and I are at the pinnacle of our TEFL career. Razz
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

50-60 hours per week in EFL?!?!? Shocked Have I just been really lucky these past 8 years?

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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you haven't been lucky because you have been in TEFL.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
Neither do I but you, Stephan and I are at the pinnacle of our TEFL career. Razz

I don't have a TEFL career. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was being sarcastic, of course we don't have a TEFL career-there is no such thing.
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goodbye



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodbye wrote:
Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it.

Exactly. And dead-end people tend to find themselves in dead-end jobs. Well said!
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodbye wrote:
Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it.


Crap. If one was a cleaner what could one make of it or a security guard or a TEFLer?
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
If one was a cleaner what could one make of it or a security guard or a TEFLer?

I think a cleaner could make a TEFLer a lot more presentable in the classroom.
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sidjameson



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More and more people are going to university in western countries that really shouldn't be.

More and more of those same graduate, then realising that they can't get anything like a decent job decide to give TEFL a go.

Many of the less able TEFLers stick with it cuz there really ain't nothing to go home to. Add a few years and this becomes a almost inescapable fact.

Therefore the numbers of "teachers" out there is always increasing and so the pay being offered always decreasing. This is born out in the apparent reality that every country that I know of has seen some serious pay cuts for TEFL in the last decade.

In asia I get the feeling that Chinese and other asian languages are also on the rise. This is eating into the size of the TEFL market. Lower demand would of course lower wages.

Most people find themselves repeating the same experience 10 times rather than having 10 years of different experience.

10 years ago I said that TEFL was a good career. Now, I think times have changed.

Oops...not really answering the OP's question. Can't be bothered to now. Smile
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mcsam



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to turn this topic on it's head if I may.
I gave up a financially rewarding job that I really enjoyed to become a TEFLer, and I LOVE it. That said I have only been in the "game" for 3 years. I really like the challenges that you have to face, finding a job with a reputable company/school, the trepidation of moving to a new country, learning some of the language etc.
To be fair I am in debt up to my ears which I never was before but, would I give it up............................certainly not for a while yet. Will let you know when I change my mind.
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throwdownyourcrutches



Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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Location: On the road to El Dorado

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: mcsam Reply with quote

I am thinking of doing much the same thing soon. What countries have you worked in so far?
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did hear about a lady who did TEFL (some management I think) and eventually came back to the U.S. to work at a university as a study abroad coordinator. But overall, I would say TEFL ends up mainly as lost time -- to be regarded as neutral at best by future employers.
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