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billysmolesworthy



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Location: Hamamatsu, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Miyazaki for your sober and reasoned response.

You figure I'm management or a head teacher even though I stated that the mics sometimes 'caused tension' , made one student feel under extreme pressure, that my branch may have done things 'half arsed' and as a 'knee jerk' reaction', and the statement that they are 'the LOWEST PAYING gig in town'.

I suspect you just threw those accusations in because anybody disagreeing with you must be management. Or a witch! A witch!

The OP isn't asking which company is most or least welcoming to union members, so your post is not relevant. Never the less, I used real and relevant illustrations from a working Berlitz branch to show that it's just not feasible to have a staff-wide, ongoing, audio/video monitoring system. Can you provide the same level of detail to support your cries of union harrassment?

The OP needs some helpful and thought-out advice, so that they can make a more informed decision. Berlitz is as greedy as the next money making corporation, but they simply don't have the 'greasy' reputation NOVA does.

Oh, and apologies to the moderators for my gutter mouth in the previous post. So is 'arse' okay then? What a load of *beep*.
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gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berlitz isn't the lowest payer. They certainly offer more hours on a regular basis with much better earning capability than any of the other eikaiwas. We get paid for cancellations, we're not required to do busy work during that time. We can get double payment (working during a cancelled lesson), which isn't paid at any other language school that I know of.

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Berlitz is as greasy, greedy and hardline with it's staff as NOVA is.


Not quite, but certainly Berlitz is a profit seeking capitalist. NOVA on the other hand......has been acting illegally, thus their financial and legal problems are well deserved.
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billysmolesworthy



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Location: Hamamatsu, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Gaijinalways. I don't work for Berlitz much anymore, but they were always upstanding with me. Paid on time, treated honestly and professionally.

If the original poster is still reading, all of the full timers at my branch were more that satisfied working there. As a part timer, I was happy with Berlitz because they could fill so many of the gaps in my teaching schedule. So I could go into work for Berlitz and earn, instead of staying home at watching DVDs.

But come oooon Gaijinalways, if they are not the lowest payers for casual work, who is then? Well maybe Gabba. But 2700 an hour (1800 per 40 minute lesson) for casual/on call, is at the bottom of the market, don't you think.

I'll concede they are one of the lowest paying gigs in town.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never said they were one of the higher ones (compared to uni jobs, for example or some direct private high school jobs), but for the amount of work you have to do outside of class time, it's okay. The 'face' time can kill you, but that goes for any teaching situation where you teach too much, you can burn out.
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billysmolesworthy



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Location: Hamamatsu, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaijinalways wrote
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I never said they were one of the higher ones (compared to uni jobs, for example or some direct private high school jobs)

I should certainly hope you would never say this, but you are denying something nobody has accused you of (yet). There was not a hint in either of our posts before your last one, that Berlitz is even in the same ball park as Uni work or some of the private high schools.

I agree that Berlitz is heaven compared with the Big Four when it comes to pressure to sell products or courses and doing 'busy work' or unpaid prep. Berlitz never had any of these evils while I was there, and it is par for the course at the Big Four. (Well, it is at Aeon and NOVA anyway.)

But my point is - forget about comparing Berlitz with Uni pay - they don't even compare with dispatch companies. Let me be explicit so that jah434s, the original poster, can see. I work for three different dispatch companies and the going rate is 4000円 an hour (plus early morning bonuses, etc.) . Berlitz pays an hourly rate of 2700円. They.Are.One.Of.The.Lowest.Paying.Gigs.In.Town.

But like I said before, if you want some extra casual work, those guys at Berlitz can certainly send some classes your way. I benefitted from the extra income.

(edited the right name for the OP)


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jah434s



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it. I've got an interview with them via skype coming up soon. Anyone who has interviewed with them have any advice, as far as what to expect? I really appreciate all the help.

Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I tried using the online application but kept getting errors when submitting it. So I contacted them, and they gave me an address to send my resume and cover letter to. So far it has worked out all right Smile .
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dispatch? The main problems with the dispatch companies are;

the rates vary

you may be traveling all over, and the dispatch company doesn't pay for your travel time (Berlitz does in some cases when you're traveling further from your main school)

you have to prep (not necessarily a bad thing, but it is more work)

your schedule cannot be adjusted so easily as usually classes start and finish at specific times (months and times of day)


the good points

-see the same students every week

-can use more of your own material


I recently wanted to take on another business class, but after injuring my back, I actually cut back on my Berlitz schedule. Before you say you make more with dispatch companies, look at the whole story.

By the way, I make over 3000 yen an hour with Berlitz. Plus, my coworkers are a funny bunch, so that and free coffee makes up for some of the disadvantages. Oh, and I'm 20 minutes to home door to door from my branch.
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drifter13



Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Location: Fujisawa

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jah434s wrote:
Hey guys, thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it. I've got an interview with them via skype coming up soon. Anyone who has interviewed with them have any advice, as far as what to expect? I really appreciate all the help.


I wouldn't mind a run down of how interviews go either. I got one coming up next week, and knowing how they go would be helpful.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I forgot about the interview part last time. I haven't had a phone interview, but they are interested in how you would deal with some cultural issues; some shy students who don't want to speak, being senseitve about privacy issues, being friendly, etc. They may ask if you have taught (coaching, tutoring, etc.) and what you like and dislike about teaching. Beyond that, it's fairly easy to get hired as long as you're fairly mature, and can respond to questions without becoming too long winded or evasive.
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drifter13



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, seems pretty standard interview wise, do they do a mock lesson? I heard the the training is 6 days long and unpaid, how long is it each day? I've dedicated myself to staying in Japan at least until Januray, so, ill take any job I can get, cameras or not.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The training is unfortunately unpaid, with travel to the training not even being paid Confused . Sometimes you get a free lunch, but even that is not guaranteed. Definately not the better part of getting the job Rolling Eyes .
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jah434s



Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, just thought I'd stop in with an update. I've completed the first interview, which I guess is kind of a general screening interview. It went well enough, I suppose. We did it over Skype, and the gentleman on their side was very nice. It's pretty much basically what was stated above. Just standard interview stuff. Now I'm waiting for them to send my info to one of the Language Centers for another interview. Fingers crossed!
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries, I'm sure you'll do fine. Just relax and show you can think without boring your interviewer.
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ohahakehte



Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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Location: japan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billysmolesworthy wrote:
Never the less, I used real and relevant illustrations from a working Berlitz branch to show that it's just not feasible to have a staff-wide, ongoing, audio/video monitoring system.


my school in korea had tv cameras in every classroom. my company contract said that they would never observe a teachers classes without informing them ahead of time. i never believed that and my suspicion proved correct because over the course of the year the managers observed my and my coworkers classes regularly and without telling us. its totally feasible for a school to have this kind of monitoring system. who says they have to watch you all the time? the managers could and did observe us anytime they wanted.
im not a berlitz teacher although im sort of impressed by their good reputation...but this video monitoring thing is a big red flag
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alexcase



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't even remember what country, but a friend of a friend worked in a school with not only cameras but a loud speaker system so that, for example, if the head teacher looking at their CCTV monitor noticed one of the kids nodding off before you they would blurt out an order for them to wake up.

The unpleasantness of the experience aside, I'd be interested to see research on whether having constant monitoring made teachers teach better or not. I think it'd be a toss up to be honest.
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