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wildchild
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| yes, shooting a few people seems to solve the problems of the world quite nicely. Hey, look what it's doing for Iraq! |
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markle
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Result. Excellent. On the general subject, what has always disturbed me is why are certain countries paedophile magnets? What is it about the people or society there that makes them less protective of their children, especially when it is common knowledge that these beasts are homing in? Money is not the only thing. I would recommend the Thai government shoot a few. End of problem. |
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On the general subject, what has always disturbed me is why are certain countries paedophile creators? What is it about the people or society there that makes them produce these beasts? Bad parenting is not the only thing. I would recommend the Canadian, Australian, American, German, British, Belgian, Russian, Dutch, New Zealand, Finnish, Swedish, Japanese, Chinese, French, Italian, Spanish etc government shoot a few. Real end of problem. |
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Jetgirly
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| Gee, I wonder why we don't hear about men from Malawi, Haiti or Bhutan traveling to foreign countries and molesting children... I'm also completely amazed that we our media isn't saturated with stories of the crimes committed by people in these nations! Gosh... it really is a mystery... |
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jwbhomer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Jetgirly wrote: |
| Gee, I wonder why we don't hear about men from Malawi, Haiti or Bhutan traveling to foreign countries and molesting children... I'm also completely amazed that we our media isn't saturated with stories of the crimes committed by people in these nations! Gosh... it really is a mystery... |
The reason you don't hear about it is very simple... The paedophiles who DO exist in places like Malawi, Haiti, and Bhutan can't afford to travel to foreign countries to molest kids. So they molest local children, often related to them.
Definition of a virgin in [fill in name of impoverished country]: Any girl of five years old or more who can outrun her father! |
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william wallace
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yada yada
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jwbhomer
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I suppose this guy wanted to become a priest for the same reason some people want to become scoutmasters. 
Gotta give the Church credit on this one though. For once they screened out a potential abuser! |
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Jetgirly
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Jetgirly wrote: |
| Gee, I wonder why we don't hear about men from Malawi, Haiti or Bhutan traveling to foreign countries and molesting children... I'm also completely amazed that we our media isn't saturated with stories of the crimes committed by people in these nations! Gosh... it really is a mystery... |
The reason you don't hear about it is very simple... The paedophiles who DO exist in places like Malawi, Haiti, and Bhutan can't afford to travel to foreign countries to molest kids. So they molest local children, often related to them.
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Ummmm... duh. |
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william wallace
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jammish
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| markle wrote: |
On the general subject, what has always disturbed me is why are certain countries paedophile creators? What is it about the people or society there that makes them produce these beasts? Bad parenting is not the only thing. I would recommend the Canadian, Australian, American, German, British, Belgian, Russian, Dutch, New Zealand, Finnish, Swedish, Japanese, Chinese, French, Italian, Spanish etc government shoot a few. Real end of problem. |
Thing is, the vast vasty majority of child abuse occurs in the home within the family and is not restricted to any one culture or race. The only thing is that western countries have more rich people who can travel... |
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John Hall
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: Sperling on CBC TV |
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Dave Sperling was interviewed on CBC television about this issue. A firewall prevents me from seeing it, apparently. Would somebody else like to give a summary of it?
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2007/10/102107_7.html |
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jwbhomer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Sperling on CBC TV |
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Dave Sperling was interviewed on CBC television about this issue. A firewall prevents me from seeing it, apparently. Would somebody else like to give a summary of it?
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2007/10/102107_7.html |
"As a Canadian ESL teacher is charged with molesting children in Thailand, we ask law professor Mark Erik Hecht, legal counsel for Beyond Borders, and Dave Sperling - who runs on online chat site for ESL teachers - whether Canadians teaching abroad ought to receive closer background checks."
That's the summary on the CBC website. The news footage which is used at the beginning of the segment is shown in black and white, rather than colour, for some reason. Given that Neil was wearing dark glasses and had a 5-o'clock shadow, he is made to look VERY sinister.
Mark Hecht's message is best summed up in his own words: "These kind of people will do whatever it takes to get close to children." I hear him saying that governments (note: governments, not the schools themselves) can do all the checking they like, but it's not going to make any difference.
For some reason, Dave Sperling reminds me of Dustin Hoffman. (I'd never seen him on video before -- just my first reaction.) One of the interviewers seemed to be of the impression that ESL Cafe is some kind of chat room. When they finally got to the point of whether this case is indicative of a need for greater regulation, Dave said no, he never heard of anything like this before.
Dave ... say it ain't so! There was at least one notorious cases reported previously from (if memory serves) Thailand.
Actually Dave comes across as not knowing very much about the case. He said he hadn't read all of Neil's posts (although he thought AP might have done so) and then asked if Neil had been in any trouble in Canada, to which the interviewers replied that there was nothing concrete.
All in all, not much of any real significance was said by anyone...which is about what you might expect. |
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jwbhomer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: Shorter height linked to pedophilia |
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The following is not a joke. The story, reported by AP, is on Yahoo right now. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/canada_pedophilia_research
SHORTER HEIGHT LINKED TO PEDOPHILIA -- STUDY
OTTAWA (AFP) - Shorter men are more likely to be sexually attracted to children than their taller peers, according to a new Canadian study of the biological roots of pedophilia.
This is likely the result of exposure to "pre-birth conditions" that affected pedophiles' physical development, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health reported in "Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment."
"This research does not mean that pedophiles are not criminally responsible for their behavior," said lead researcher James Cantor.
"But the discovery of biological markers for pedophilia has important implications for future study and possibly treatment."
By analyzing the files of over 1,000 men who were assessed for pedophilia or other sexual disorders in Toronto between 1995 and 2006, researchers observed that pedophilic males were two centimeters (0.8 inches) shorter on average than males who were not sexually attracted to children.
This height difference is a trait found in other illnesses with biological links, similar in scope to the shorter height associated with schizophrenia or Alzheimer's disease, the researchers said.
The same scientific team previously found that pedophiles "have lower IQs, are three times more likely to be left-handed, failed school grades significantly more frequently, and suffered more head injuries as children."
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PS from Homer -- Before someone asks, I admit I'm only 5'5" ! |
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william wallace
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Vanica
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Sperling on CBC TV |
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When they finally got to the point of whether this case is indicative of a need for greater regulation, Dave said no, he never heard of anything like this before.
Dave ... say it ain't so! There was at least one notorious cases reported previously from (if memory serves) Thailand. |
Actually, I thought that, when asked if the ESL industry should be more regulated, Dave responded, "Oh, definitely." Please don't make me watch the segment again to verify; the tone was very sensationalist and the music was so annoying! |
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jwbhomer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Sperling on CBC TV |
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| Vanica wrote: |
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When they finally got to the point of whether this case is indicative of a need for greater regulation, Dave said no, he never heard of anything like this before.
Dave ... say it ain't so! There was at least one notorious cases reported previously from (if memory serves) Thailand. |
Actually, I thought that, when asked if the ESL industry should be more regulated, Dave responded, "Oh, definitely." Please don't make me watch the segment again to verify; the tone was very sensationalist and the music was so annoying! |
You may be right. To be honest I wasn't listening very carefully. But I do remember the line about not having heard of anything like this before. Maybe it wasn't so much Dave's actual words as the general tone that made me think he thought it was no biggie. |
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