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techshots2
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Average savings in japan with moderate lifestyle |
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Hi,
I'm considering teaching in Japan, but I'd like to save at least $1000 a month.
Is this possible for an average lifestyle?
How much would you say I could save if I had this type of lifestyle:
-eating out everyday
-some travel inside of japan
-not a bar person
thanks so much,
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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"average". There is a word that people will argue over.
Depends on where you live (city vs. countryside), for one thing.
Average rent = 70,000-90,000 yen/month
Average food costs = 30,000-60,000 yen/month
Average utilities = 20,000 yen/month
Average phone bill = 5000-8000 yen/month (depending on Internet use and whether you have a land line or cell phone)
Add them up:
Average expenditures on these basic necessities = 125,000-178,000 yen/month.
Subtract from a standard (but falling) salary of 250,000, and you have 72,000 - 125,000 left over.
How you spend that is up to you. Yes, some people can save 100K per month, but you really, really need to know their individual situations.
Some people have outstanding loans (e.g., student loans, car payments) to make back home.
Some people like to go out twice a week (which can set you back an easy 50,000 per month).
Some people rent videos, have cable/satellite TV, go to movies (1800 yen a pop), have a car (with parking to pay for), etc.
Some people prefer the 800 yen haircuts, while others go for the full dye and perm jobs for 20,000-40,000 yen.
What kind of insurance are you going to have? National health insurance is 2500 yen the first year, and ten times that subsequently. Or will you go with some private policy? If your employer offers corporate health insurance, he will/must pay half. It all depends.
It all depends on the individual.
Eat out everyday. Well, eat what? 500 yen bento? 1000 yen Royal Host meal? Eat once a day, twice, 3 times? Learn to cook, I say, not just for the cost but the health aspects.
Some travel inside Japan. To be expected, but how? By bicycle, car, train, plane? How often? What island are you on and plan to go to? From Hokkaido, plane fares to Honshu will run several 10,000 yen. These things can't be averaged easily.
Not a bar person. That's ok, but just what are your hobbies?
Look up this thread, which I started, just to see a few ideas from people here on how to spend cheaply. http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=4201&highlight=cheapskates&sid=e8150d8d89b2b2ea1764a7e366234793
Here is another with 4 links inside.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=49872&highlight=cheapskates&sid=1b9861329ba6a47849ebca5e124032dd |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Going out to eat everyday for every meal is going to drive you in the hole fast...I would suggest cooking, you can save a lot of money that way. We only eat out for weekends and it is pretty expensive. The resturants themselves are not that expensive but you have to eat at least 2 times a day, so yeah...it adds up.
Maybe without doing that you could save $1000 a month... |
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gonzarelli

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 151 Location: trouble in the henhouse
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Quibby84 wrote: |
Going out to eat everyday for every meal is going to drive you in the hole fast...I would suggest cooking, you can save a lot of money that way. We only eat out for weekends and it is pretty expensive. The resturants themselves are not that expensive but you have to eat at least 2 times a day, so yeah...it adds up.
Maybe without doing that you could save $1000 a month... |
I would eat lunch for around 700 and then dinner for about 1,000. I guess that would add up to around 60,000 a month which includes the odd coffee etc here and there.
Of course I could have bought groceries more often but the food in Japan is so freaking good. Why not go out and experience it instead of worrying so much about money? I'm now back to eating average food. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Average savings in japan with moderate lifestyle |
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| techshots2 wrote: |
Hi,
I'm considering teaching in Japan, but I'd like to save at least $1000 a month.
Is this possible for an average lifestyle?
How much would you say I could save if I had this type of lifestyle:
-eating out everyday
-some travel inside of japan
-not a bar person
thanks so much,
HN |
Eating out as in going to 7/11 and buying a sandwich, or eating out as in going for a bowl of ramen or eating out as in getting sushi or a full meal someplace?
Travel inside of Japan- depending on where you are it could be cheaper to go to another country. If you are near the airport then it will likely cost you less overall to fly out to Thailand, have a vacation therre for a week and fly back, than to go someplace in Japan for a week.
You are missing some important spending things. Do you want access to English television? If you don't go out to bars, do you read a lot of books (English books are usually only available in big cities and can be expensive, especially if you read a lot and go through a typical 500 page paperback book in a week).
What kind of job are you going to be doing?
If you don't 'eat out' (or if 'eat out' means eat fatty 7/11 sandwiches and obentos every day) then sure, you should be able to save that. If you applied for the JET programme and got on that, then it wouldn't be hard at all to save that much. But then, normally on JET you are in a rural placement so there isn't actually much to spend your money on, other than infrequent trips to a big city where you can buy a bunch of paperbacks that you stuff in a backpack and then put in a locker overnight so you can go drinking for the first time in several months (Does this sound bitter? It's pretty autobiographical!). |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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We make a compromise with eating out..cook on the weekdays and eat out on the weekends. The crazy thing is that food for the weekdays is at most $50 (for two people) and for the weekends we spend at least $100 (including treats here and there). We save a lot with that (my husband whole salary).
The food here is super good...we found this tiny Thai place and...oh my gosh...we have to fight the urge to go there everyday...we limit it to once a week...
I dont think that the books are to expensive (1000 to 2000 yen). The selection is where I have the problems. I am getting close to reading all of the good books that they have to offer. I also have to pace my book reading...even though they are not super expensive, it does add up. I always buy my books at the bookstore in Aeon. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| If you go to Kinokuniya right by Shinjuku station, there's a good selection. But maybe you aren't in Kanto. |
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