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HELP!! Info about Xiamen

 
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rico4444



Joined: 01 Apr 2007
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Location: Thailand

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: HELP!! Info about Xiamen Reply with quote

In a general sense, any info about Xiamen would be helpful. I've done a considerable amount of research and have narrowed my choice to Xiamen. I have a ton of experience in Korea, Thailand, and USA so I think finding a job shouldn't be too difficult. To be more specific, can you answer these 3 questions:
1) When is the best time to apply? I assume September is the best period but what about around Lunar New Year?
2) Can you save any money if the salary is about 6000 RMB plus housing or housing allowance?
3) Do you know anything about this school....Xiamen Yingzhifu Language Training Center, or King's International English? I have a job offer pending at the former.
4) Any other schools you'd recommend to either work at or stay away from?

Thanks for your help.
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simrishamn



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Hello, I have lived in Xiamen for two years and been teaching � Xiamen University.
I would recommend that you stay away from King�s International; they have problems keeping teachers for longer than 3 months at a time. One of the better training centers believe it or not would be English First in Xiamen.
Regarding the salary it depends what you like to do on your spare time. A decent apartment would cost at least 1200-1500 for a studio/month. Overall, Xiamen is not too expensive but I doubt you will be able to save much.
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xiamen Yingzifu is actually English First, I believe. It was a good centre to work in when I was there.

Kings has a poor reputation.
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therock



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search and you will find quite a few threads about Kings. From the feedback it seems they are like a nightmare school.
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rico4444



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Teach in Xiamen Reply with quote

Thanks for all the helpful info, especially about Kings. I did check the threads and was totally scared off, just in time too.

What about universities in Xiamen? Can I get work there without a Masters? I have a BA and a CELTA and 6 years ESL experience in America, Thailand, and Korea. I'm particularly interested in Xiamen Univ......any chance?? And when is the best time to apply?
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simrishamn



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best way is to send your �stuff� directly to the FAO � Xiamen University. They hire a lot of foreign teachers but most of them have a MA or a PhD.
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therock



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

simrishamn wrote:
The best way is to send your �stuff� directly to the FAO � Xiamen University. They hire a lot of foreign teachers but most of them have a MA or a PhD.


I knew a guy who had only a 2 year college diploma, however he was working at Xiamen University.
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rico4444



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Teach Xiamen Reply with quote

That's totally encouraging. Do you have any idea when the best time to send my "stuff" would be? Is after Lunar New Year too early? Is it better to wait until June or July as they get ready for the September session?
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simrishamn



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could sent them your documents already and keep sending them emails until they respond.
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

King's English = a very very bad place to work.

Moron's run it, extremely high turnover, work you 40 + a hours a week, fine you for the stupidist things... Clock in late by a minute fine you 10 rmb, crap like that.

My friend worked a whole year there and at the end asked for his contractual airlfare bonus - they gave him 100 stories as to why they would not pay him even though he worked there the entire contract time...

AVOID KINGS ENGLISH in Fujian if you have some common sense.

And yes, I worked there and regret it. And they still can not give you a legal working visa even though they may tell you they can.
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bisognor



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Some more questions similar to thos of the original poster Reply with quote

I am considering Xiamen in early 2008 too. I wanted to add some related questions to the OP:


1. Are you able to get internet in apartments? dial up? High speed?

2. If I secured a University position would it be easy to get some extra work? I am especially intersted in some "business english" opportunities.

3. I have a JD but don't practice law in California. I have read some on the net about growing demand in the ESL market for "legal english" but most of what I see on the net is related to Europe. I'm curious if people have seen signs of a "legal english" market in Xiamen or China broadly?
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: Some more questions similar to thos of the original post Reply with quote

bisognor wrote:
I am considering Xiamen in early 2008 too. I wanted to add some related questions to the OP:
1. Are you able to get internet in apartments? dial up? High speed?
2. If I secured a University position would it be easy to get some extra work? I am especially intersted in some "business english" opportunities.
3. I have a JD but don't practice law in California. I have read some on the net about growing demand in the ESL market for "legal english" but most of what I see on the net is related to Europe. I'm curious if people have seen signs of a "legal english" market in Xiamen or China broadly?


I work with 2 guys who are lawyers from the USA amd they teach English. There are opportunities for law teachers here that pay better but you have to look and advertise yourself as a Western Law lectuer and demand high salary.

Extra work is there if you look for it - often it finds you.

Internet is also available through the phone company. Usually your school will give you internet with your housing and the speeds vary. ADSL seems the norm with some schools having school networks in the teachers rooms.
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ontheroadagain



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simrishamn wrote:
The best way is to send your �stuff� directly to the FAO � Xiamen University. They hire a lot of foreign teachers but most of them have a MA or a PhD.


Right ... and they offer 4500RMB however expect! you! to teach! 3 (three) subjects!, i.e.:

- Accounting !
- Business Communication !
- Business Management !

All of those in English (evidently)
Some dirty Chinese "goons" are always in the quest to ripping you off, and always succeed in hiring new comers...

Degrees? Diplomas? Certifications? Experiences? Recommendations?
I have all of the above.
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