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kanjizai



Joined: 29 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:39 am    Post subject: Do you work at Nova? Reply with quote

I am going to be interviewing at for a NOVA postion soon. I would like some advice on what is the best location to work at, how to negotiate the best salary, and how to make the most out of my experince. By best location I mean one that has a good admin. staff and the cost of living is lower than that in Tokyo. About the salary, I noticed that their are ranges of begining salaries and I would like the highet, of course, and I wanted to know what they needed to hear to get it. And finally how have you made the best of your time at NOVA. Your response is appreciated.
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GFunK



Joined: 17 Dec 2003
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Location: not Pohang

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a NOVA experience today, and I will state now that I haven't done my homework.
But
they said they can interview me in 6 weeks time and place me about 6 weeks after that. I said "why, actually NOVA CHICK, I plan on being in japan just after the New Year wah, wah,...guffaw,guffaw" She says to GFunK " you can't get a job there unless you got a visa and sponsership and only we can get it for you....guaranteed"
Like I said I don't know my stuff, but how come all me mates just cruise to Japan and get cool jobs without any visa and stuff (don't sweat it, they are degreed up, they're on our side, keep out the vermin, solidarity, etc). But it seems if you get there, your school will sort you.
Sorry this is old hats for you old cats, but it pissed me off i.e. you won't get a job in japan without us!!!!
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april



Joined: 07 May 2003
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as negotiating salary - you can't. Nova has posted a salary range on their website because people who work the late shift get paid more. As do people with an education degree or other credentials.

Places that are cheaper than Tokyo to live - anywhere that isn't Tokyo! But then your salary will decrease so it all works out the same anyway.
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Posts: 814
Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gfunk-

The thing is that finding a job in Japan can take a bit of time. After you have secured a job, you can expect to wait 4-6 weeks for your first paycheck (employees get paid once a month here, and some companies pay late - despicable practice!). If you have little cash to begin with, you may find this to be an impossible situation. (Oh, housing is hard to get here, too!) For people without deep pockets, coming to Japan without NOVA or the JET programme or Westgate or some other such agency, it is a dicey proposition. If you come to Japan just after the new year, you may be able to secure a job for the new school year that starts in April. I would suggest the end February or the beginning of March, but perhaps others would have more to say on that.

Good luck.
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GFunK



Joined: 17 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the info Celeste
I have enough cash to hold out for a few months, and a place I can crash in Fukuoka, but , yeah I don't wanna blow all my hard earned savings.
I'm thinking of negotiating a 6 month stint in Busan so I can sift across and tee it all up properly instead of the devil may care attitude.
I bet Japan is a very bad place to be broke!!!


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Canuk girl



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kanjizai,
as April said, the Nova salary is all about professional teaching credentials , what shifts you will work, and where you will be working.
For example if you are full time and are willing to work the late shift (1-9) than you'd make a bit more (not much), and if you do overtime, they tell you you'll make a heap too, but the overtime that they might sell you on doesn't exist anymore.. just to let you know in advance. You actually don't even know exactly how much you will be making until your pen is wetted to sign on the dotted line IN JAPAN, since salary is by location and you don't even know that location until two weeks before you leave your home country.


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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey... is the title of this thread a trick question Laughing
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like I said I don't know my stuff, but how come all me mates just cruise to Japan and get cool jobs without any visa and stuff (don't sweat it, they are degreed up, they're on our side, keep out the vermin, solidarity, etc).


So, they have degrees. Ok. That makes them eligible for a work visa. Being in Japan also makes them more available for the plethora of jobs here, as compared to the very few that are provided from (only) overseas contacts (like NOVA, GEOS, AEON, ECC, Altia, Westgate, James English School, and Peppy Kids Club). Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that if you are here, there are more opportunities for you. So, that's probably why your mates have had success. They are just working the percentages. Those other places I mentioned have their own recruiting schedules and locations, so that limits people even more. How about telling us what places your mates are working? Or how they went about getting those jobs?

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I am going to be interviewing at for a NOVA postion soon. I would like some advice on what is the best location to work at, how to negotiate the best salary, and how to make the most out of my experince.


For the highest salaries, look at where NOVA places people and see what their salary range is. I believe Tokyo locations offer the highest salaries. NOVA's web site has the answers for that question.

You can't negotiate with 90% of the eikaiwas in Japan. Try it, and you'll be passed over for the next zillion applicants in line.

How to make the most out of your experience at NOVA? Look at this web site.
http://vocaro.com/trevor/japan/nova/level_up.html
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GFunK



Joined: 17 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I understand that Glenski, and you are bang on!
They went there with their lifesavings rented an apartment and started knocking on doors. 2 have left there now so maybe the market has changed. 1 was in Chiba, had no teaching experience and landed a job actually running the school, just by being in the right place at the right time. The 1 that is left, has advised me that jobs are thin on the ground in Fukuoka, and would be risky to assume I'd get a job.
I' m just a little weary of dropping 5 grand US to be able to go job hunting there. Although I loved my time in Korea, I think I would get a bit depressed staring down another year there. There is not much of a 'wow factor' left for me there. I haven't been to Japan so the cultural experience would see me through the tough times etc. Descisions..........
I do have a contact that said he would employ me in January, unfortunately his father has taken very ill and he is out of the country for the foreseeable future.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how come all me mates just cruise to Japan and get cool jobs


From what you just wrote, I'd have to criticize the above comment as being fairly off the mark. "all me mates" = 2 people? Cool jobs? One has left and said things are risky? Not exactly an accurate reflection on what you wrote earlier.

Yes, dropping US$5000 to come here is risky and expensive, but I have been one of many who purport that you may need to bring this if you come here jobless. Thanks you your friends for proving this line of thinking is right. Not easy, just right.
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