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Whistle-blowing in the wind? Where is real enforcement?
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IanMWashburn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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Location: As of February 2009 - Santa Cruz, CA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Whistle-blowing in the wind? Where is real enforcement? Reply with quote

Sifting through the strings here on Dave's, there seems to be agreement that the Chinese legal and regulatory agencies charged with the job of enforcing their own policies, are incompetent, unresponsive and/or corrupt.

Going to court is often touted as the only effective way of making crooked schools accountable.

However, it appears that lately there is a tightening of the adherence to the laws and regs. (Or is it just me who is seeing this?).

So my questions are:

1. Does anyone know of any governmental person or agency (SAFEA etc) who will respond to legitimate and documented complaints about illegal and fraudulent practices, which ultimately damage the interests of the students, some of whom are children?

2. If so, can you please respond with as much DETAIL as possible?

3. If there are no real regulators and prosecutors, then what is the procedure for starting a court case in China?

4. Has anyone personally been through this court process?

5. Can anyone recommend a bona fide, honorable, incorruptible Chinese lawyer in Qingdao and/or Shanghai, who is an expert in these matters?

6. Does anyone know the conspiracy laws of China? Can you refer to exact sections of Chinese law? (Conspiracy to commit a crime is itself a crime in most countries.)

7. In the various provinces, is there an office equal to the District Attorney (as in the U.S.) ? At the central government level in Beijing, is there an office like the U.S Attorney's office, charged with prosecuting violators of federal (national) laws?

With the eyes of the world increasingly on China in the lead-up to the Olympics, it seems that China is tightening its enforcement. Maybe.

I want to blow the whistle, but who will listen?

Thanks as always.
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jeffinflorida



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Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I want to blow the whistle, but who will listen?


Life in China is cheap.

So is death...

Blowing the whistle may cause you the latter. And you will never know it is coming...
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IanMWashburn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Thank you Jeff for your reply. Reply with quote

jeffinflorida wrote:
Quote:
I want to blow the whistle, but who will listen?


Life in China is cheap.

So is death...

Blowing the whistle may cause you the latter. And you will never know it is coming...


Thank you Jeff for your reply.

Do you personally know of anyone who has been disappeared, maimed or killed in the pursuit of justice for the Chinese people?

Death always walks beside all of us.

Anyone can die at any moment. Whether at the hands of another, from a sudden internal malfunction, or by pure accident.

Thank you for reminding me of this fact.

It makes each breath more precious.

Now, do you have any comments to make that are relevant to the specific inquiry that was posted?

Thanks again for your reply.
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SocratesSon2



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting how you try to sound so poetic and accepting of death, I don't think you took what the responder said seriously.
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hairuo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the OP should read some news and posts from eariler... about the man who was found dead after challenging his schools owner. The one who called his mother and said he feared for his life and that was the last she heard from him..... Yes, Mr. OP....reread Jeff's words very carefully.
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IanMWashburn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Please try to stay on topic Reply with quote

SocratesSon2 wrote:
Interesting how you try to sound so poetic and accepting of death, I don't think you took what the responder said seriously.


SocratesSon2:

Thank you for your reply.

Frankly, what you think about me personally is none of my business.

Hopefully, future respondents to this thread will try to stay on the specific topic in the initial posting.

Thank you again.

P.S. Perhaps you'll find the irony in your usernamesake's realtion to the topic of the teacher's death...but that is of course another topic. IW
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IanMWashburn



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Can we PLEASE stay on topic? Reply with quote

Hairuo:

Not that it matters, but I am ALWAYS in fear for my life.

I take threats VERY seriously.

Thank you all so very much for your apparent concern for my safety.

But again, this is NOT the topic.

Can you help with the request as posted.

If not, please do not respond further to this thread.

Thank you.
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Ahchoo



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