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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive the stupid question, but what constitutes security clearance?
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to what you have to have to work for the CIA at Langley. Laughing I expect that there are grades of security clearance depending on how sensitive the job is. Teaching shouldn't be all that high.

But, I suspect neither of us would pass. Cool We read all the wrong blogs.

Zeke...

Interesting that you didn't pass muster though. You would seem to be a shoo-in. Are you an active member of Viet Vets Against the War or something? Shocked

Seriously, I will bet that they don't want anyone with ME experience as we are tainted by having actual knowledge of the area. That is something this administration has studiously avoided.

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zeke0606



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: what? Reply with quote

veiledsentiments -

My security clearance expired when I was discharged from the military and that was in 1971. I really don't think it would be that difficult to reinstate it. But, who knows?

I'm a life member of VFW and Vietnam Veterans of America - neither, I think, are subversive. However, both are very active in pushing federal legislation for veterans benefits and the VA hospitals and clinics - which are very necessary.

Zeke
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to "Positive Vetting": in UK-speak.
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One Hot Teacher



Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Iraqi Dreaming Reply with quote

they are very specific in what they want. If you do not have military experience and clearence forget it. Even if you have years of teaching experience in the Middle East and can speak a bit of Arabic. Oh well, someday when thigs are better in Iraq there will be more need for English Teachers. I would take the job in a heart beat and for less money, but I do not have the requested qualifactions.
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saral



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: Baghdad Reply with quote

Would anyone know of any other offers of this nature? [/i]
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean... another job for men only that requires military background and a current security clearance?

If you are looking for another job paying 7500 a month... err... don't hold your breath... Laughing It's the first one I've seen in the 20+ years I've been involved with EFL. Though I did know one person who had been at a high profile uni in Asia for many years who hit that number... but his replacement only got about a third of that.

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saral



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, not actually VS. I care nothing for jobs only for males (there are far too many of those as it is), let alone their military histories. What I'm interested in is the so called "reconstruction" of Iraq. I've been looking into different things on the internet but nothing in the way of ESL at this stage. I'm just wondering if anyone has come across anything or is it too early in the play.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it's waaaay early. Probably years...

...other than previously mentioned openings in Kurdistan. (discussed down the page)

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Dedicated



Joined: 18 May 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach EAP/ESP at a UK university. Through links with former students, I have been to Baghdad twice in the past 6 months, each for a month's stretch.

The first stretch was teaching Iraqi lawyers and I was based in the Green Zone. They were great to teach and very appreciative of the risk I was taking. The second stretch was teaching doctors, but for this I had to travel into the Red Zone............not for the faint-hearted. The worst part is actually flying into Baghdad airport, in corkscrew fashion to avoid ground to air missiles. Everybody is violently sick.

I had to get an Enhanced Police Disclosure (CRB) and be positively vetted, pass a very stringent medical, which included a dental exam, ( because no medical treatment available there) as well as having 20 years of EAP/ESP teaching experience. However, I was handsomely paid. As far as I know, they advertise through a recruitment agency in London to avoid thousands of applications. If you are really interested PM me.
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moonshine



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saral wrote:
No, not actually VS. I care nothing for jobs only for males (there are far too many of those as it is), let alone their military histories. What I'm interested in is the so called "reconstruction" of Iraq. I've been looking into different things on the internet but nothing in the way of ESL at this stage. I'm just wondering if anyone has come across anything or is it too early in the play.



just keep reading the international job forum on dave's - i've seen posts there for afghanistan and even darfur, no less.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: The Kurds and Their Ways Reply with quote

Well, it's not Baghdad, but it is Iraq:

"Summer 2007 was a great time of building relationships with Kurdish students in Zakho, Iraq. Our team of 4 teachers taught 5 levels of English (including a bilingual literacy class), hung out with students after class, spent time with Kurdish friends on outings to the mountains, villages, and restaurants, and enjoyed getting to know families in their homes.
We're looking forward to another summer of relationship building through English teaching and Kurdish language/culture learning in 2008. Come and join us!
The presidents of the Universities in Dohuk and Erbil are extremely grateful for our program and interest in community development. They are eager to employ native speakers as teachers in their univeristy programs during the school year with monthly salaries, free housing, and a few other benefits. The Minister of Education is delighted that we're a part of the educational system and welcomes us warmly."

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windstar



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: The Kurds and Their Ways Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Our team of 4 teachers ... hung out with students after class, spent time with Kurdish friends on outings to the mountains, villages...


Be careful you might be misapprehended by Turkish and US forces as being supporters of separatist kurdish rebels.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: I'm not dying to go there Reply with quote

Dear windstar,
Actually rather than "johnslat wrote", "johnslat cut and pasted" might be more accurate.
I wouldn't want anyone to think I was off in "Kurdistan" these days, rather than being safely ensconced here in Santa Fe, NM.
I have no more desire to rome (or Athens, either, for that matter) having survived the attempts of the nationals of four countries (i.e. Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia) to hasten my departure to my final reward.
Regards,
John
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd only do it if they threw in a few grenades. I mean into the job offer, not the classroom. Oh, and a few guns, kevlar vest etc. And I'd absolutely insist on a copy of Swan.
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