Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Z-Visa Question
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> China (Job-related Posts Only)
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
joeyc



Joined: 03 Dec 2007
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Z-Visa Question Reply with quote

xxx

Last edited by joeyc on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:09 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 2199
Location: Jiangsu Province

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

I got mine in China after arriving on a tourist visa 18 months ago but this is now not allowed in some locations but in others it is still happening. So it depends where you are going to work in China.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Leon Purvis



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 420
Location: Nowhere Near Beijing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a job yet? Lots of places in Mongolia require a local U.S. police background check to accompany the job application.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AussieGuyInChina



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 403

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Should I get my z-visa in the US / Do you have a job yet?
Can't get a Z visa unless / until you have an employer to 'invite' you to China.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
lostinasia



Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 466

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per the sticky ...

Code:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=26047&sid=c25913d95f8ecc2b8361825c8b7bc725
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bearcanada



Joined: 04 Sep 2005
Posts: 312
Location: Calgary, Canada

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joeyc;

If I understand your question correctly, you can apply from almost anywhere. A visa is PERMISSISON to enter a country, and therefore an application must be made from OUTSIDE the country, at a Chinese government consulate. It usually doesn't matter which other country or what kind of visa is required; the above rule still applies. If you are already IN a country on a valid visa, you can get an extension while in that country, but the original must be obtained from outside.

However, it is much easier to apply to a consulate in your own country, or at least an English-speaking one, for two reasons. One is the obvious language problem and the other is that visas are often easier to obtain in a (major) Western country.

For e.g., in Canada it is easy to obtain a 12-month multiple-entry tourist or business visa to China, but in Hong Kong or other places many people complain that the best they can get is a single-entry for 3 or 6 months. It's things like this that may affect your decision.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country, and in Hong Kong, I would assume Macau as well
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AussieGuyInChina



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 403

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country
Your employer's invitation letter and the accompanying pre-approval of employment letter issued by the provincial Foreign Experts Bureau are both addressed to a particular Chinese consulate / embassy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Quote:
If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country


If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
flutterbayou



Joined: 01 Apr 2006
Posts: 244

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearcanada wrote:
joeyc;

It usually doesn't matter which other country or what kind of visa is required; the above rule still applies. If you are already IN a country on a valid visa, you can get an extension while in that country, but the original must be obtained from outside.

.


The remarks above are a bit convoluted. You cannot apply for a z visa in any country. Like mentioned by others, a z visa application comes only after an invitation to work, in writing.

The next step is to apply through a consulate, but you can only do so in the country where you currently work. For instance, you may NOT visit Kathmandu for a holiday and apply for your z visa there on your way to China.

Overall, it's best to check out the Chinese consulate application forms online and do as they stipulate. Second your application with a phone call to be certain the post is current.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Girl Scout



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 525
Location: Inbetween worlds

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally disagree with the post above. This comes from personal experience of picking up my Z-Visa while between jobs and on vacation.

Check with the consulate of the country you will be travelling through. Call them if you have to.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flutter
Quote:

You cannot apply for a z visa in any country. Like mentioned by others, a z visa application comes only after an invitation to work, in writing.

The next step is to apply through a consulate, but you can only do so in the country where you currently work
.
work or live? Big difference obviously can't be right, or people working in China, and reentering on a z-visa could never do this (such as the days before unlimited reentries

Quote:
Scout
I totally disagree with the post above. This comes from personal experience of picking up my Z-Visa while between jobs and on vacation.


Likewise, I also got my z-visa in a country other then my home country. All I needed was a faxed copy of my invitation letter and my passport. All the laowai over the years that got their z-visas in Hong Kong ... i doubt that Hong Kong was their native country

Do either of you (Aussie, flutter) actually have a Chinese embassy protocol or regulation backing up your statement? Or any personal aquantainces who applied for their visa in other then their home country, and was denied???

Quote:
Scout
Check with the consulate of the country you will be travelling through. Call them if you have to.

Always the best move for your piece of mind
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add that if you are from a poorer country, you may need to meet stricter criteria.
For instance, I know that Nigerians now must meet stricter requirements then Canada, US UK
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 905

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Letter of Invitation/Z Visa can be processed at any Chinese Embassy/Consulate you can legally access in the world.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 5782
Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not every consulate provides the same services. i highly doubt that the chinese consulate in paraguay (for example) issues Z visas since there is likely no demand for them in that country. most consulates offer the same basic services, and all services over and above those depend on the demands of that particular region vis a vis china. this rule applies to the consulates of most countries.

as for getting the Z visa in your home country, thats fine if you live in a place like the netherlands. but in larger countries (canada) getting the Z visa can be a real headache, involving the post or a long and expensive drive in a car. last time i obtained a chinese visa in toronto, the consulate refused to accept my prepaid courier envelope to send it back to me. i had to do a second five hour round trip by car to pick it up a week later. you never know what to expect at some of these consulates.

in fact, Hong kong is the easiest place to get the Z visa. they issue them every day, they speak english, and they provide the fastest and probably cheapest service.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> China (Job-related Posts Only) All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China