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joeyc
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Z-Visa Question |
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Anda

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: Um |
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I got mine in China after arriving on a tourist visa 18 months ago but this is now not allowed in some locations but in others it is still happening. So it depends where you are going to work in China. |
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Leon Purvis
Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 420 Location: Nowhere Near Beijing
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Do you have a job yet? Lots of places in Mongolia require a local U.S. police background check to accompany the job application. |
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AussieGuyInChina
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 403
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Should I get my z-visa in the US / Do you have a job yet? |
Can't get a Z visa unless / until you have an employer to 'invite' you to China. |
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lostinasia
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 466
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Per the sticky ...
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bearcanada

Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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joeyc;
If I understand your question correctly, you can apply from almost anywhere. A visa is PERMISSISON to enter a country, and therefore an application must be made from OUTSIDE the country, at a Chinese government consulate. It usually doesn't matter which other country or what kind of visa is required; the above rule still applies. If you are already IN a country on a valid visa, you can get an extension while in that country, but the original must be obtained from outside.
However, it is much easier to apply to a consulate in your own country, or at least an English-speaking one, for two reasons. One is the obvious language problem and the other is that visas are often easier to obtain in a (major) Western country.
For e.g., in Canada it is easy to obtain a 12-month multiple-entry tourist or business visa to China, but in Hong Kong or other places many people complain that the best they can get is a single-entry for 3 or 6 months. It's things like this that may affect your decision.
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country, and in Hong Kong, I would assume Macau as well |
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AussieGuyInChina
Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 403
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country |
Your employer's invitation letter and the accompanying pre-approval of employment letter issued by the provincial Foreign Experts Bureau are both addressed to a particular Chinese consulate / embassy. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country |
If you have your invitation letter you can get your z-visa in any embassy/consulate outside of China proper, in any other country |
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flutterbayou

Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 244
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: |
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joeyc;
It usually doesn't matter which other country or what kind of visa is required; the above rule still applies. If you are already IN a country on a valid visa, you can get an extension while in that country, but the original must be obtained from outside.
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The remarks above are a bit convoluted. You cannot apply for a z visa in any country. Like mentioned by others, a z visa application comes only after an invitation to work, in writing.
The next step is to apply through a consulate, but you can only do so in the country where you currently work. For instance, you may NOT visit Kathmandu for a holiday and apply for your z visa there on your way to China.
Overall, it's best to check out the Chinese consulate application forms online and do as they stipulate. Second your application with a phone call to be certain the post is current. |
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Girl Scout

Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 525 Location: Inbetween worlds
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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I totally disagree with the post above. This comes from personal experience of picking up my Z-Visa while between jobs and on vacation.
Check with the consulate of the country you will be travelling through. Call them if you have to. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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You cannot apply for a z visa in any country. Like mentioned by others, a z visa application comes only after an invitation to work, in writing.
The next step is to apply through a consulate, but you can only do so in the country where you currently work |
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work or live? Big difference obviously can't be right, or people working in China, and reentering on a z-visa could never do this (such as the days before unlimited reentries
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I totally disagree with the post above. This comes from personal experience of picking up my Z-Visa while between jobs and on vacation. |
Likewise, I also got my z-visa in a country other then my home country. All I needed was a faxed copy of my invitation letter and my passport. All the laowai over the years that got their z-visas in Hong Kong ... i doubt that Hong Kong was their native country
Do either of you (Aussie, flutter) actually have a Chinese embassy protocol or regulation backing up your statement? Or any personal aquantainces who applied for their visa in other then their home country, and was denied???
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Check with the consulate of the country you will be travelling through. Call them if you have to. |
Always the best move for your piece of mind |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I should add that if you are from a poorer country, you may need to meet stricter criteria.
For instance, I know that Nigerians now must meet stricter requirements then Canada, US UK |
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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A Letter of Invitation/Z Visa can be processed at any Chinese Embassy/Consulate you can legally access in the world. |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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not every consulate provides the same services. i highly doubt that the chinese consulate in paraguay (for example) issues Z visas since there is likely no demand for them in that country. most consulates offer the same basic services, and all services over and above those depend on the demands of that particular region vis a vis china. this rule applies to the consulates of most countries.
as for getting the Z visa in your home country, thats fine if you live in a place like the netherlands. but in larger countries (canada) getting the Z visa can be a real headache, involving the post or a long and expensive drive in a car. last time i obtained a chinese visa in toronto, the consulate refused to accept my prepaid courier envelope to send it back to me. i had to do a second five hour round trip by car to pick it up a week later. you never know what to expect at some of these consulates.
in fact, Hong kong is the easiest place to get the Z visa. they issue them every day, they speak english, and they provide the fastest and probably cheapest service. |
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