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BJardIm



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Arriving from London Reply with quote

Hello All!

Its all been planned, thought about and finally, paid for. I'm leaving London on the 12th Feb and flying to cancun via newark (how exciting!!) where I'll spend 4 hours browsing duty free shops before embarking on a flight to Cancun. An airport transfer has been arranged by IH to take me to the student residence in Playa del Carmen, where I'm due to commence an intensive 4 week Celta course!

Wonderful!!

Any Brits out there teaching English in Mexico? do schools prefer N.Americans teaching in their classrooms?

I'd Love to teach and live in Mexico City although I'm open to other options too. I'm fluent in Portuguese although diferent to Spanish it does give me a decent understanding of the language as many words and structures are similar. Like English and Scottish!

What I'd really like to know, is if �500 (roughly $1000 USD according to XE.com) enough to get me set up before finding a teaching job? i.e after the course is over and upon successfull completion(fingers crossed), ideally I should have 500 quid left, to re-locate, find a place to stay(deposit and 1 months rent),for an fm3 visa and all the other bits and bobs to get started.

Your Help and advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on making the leap across the pond to lovely Mexico!

I think you'll want a bit more than 500 quid. Several factors here..the Mexican Riviera is not cheap, and being there for a month, I think you're likely to spend more than you think, especially during the winter high-season. Next, given the timing, you are not very likely to start a job immediately after completing the CELTA. Easter break this year falls in late March. This means you aren't likely to start a job until April. As well, you often have to wait up to 4 weeks for your first pay, regardless of which region of Mexico you choose for work.

If you can swing it, double, or even triple the amount you have as a safety net, or have a credit card handy.
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: newark Reply with quote

and here I thought he was all excited over his layover in Newark.... Laughing
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geaaronson



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that you speak Portuguese would be a great boon here in Mexico City. I have heard through the ESL grapevine that Portuguese teachers can command up to 400 pesos per hour to teach in business environments, more than twice the going rate for English teachers. You might seriously think about coming to DF right after the Playa de Carmen program and put an ad in the Universal daily newspaper, complete with your phone number and do private students until the end of the summer. You can always supplement private students with jobs from recruiters and language schools and then should you decide to work for a university or prepa in the fall, you would have a job with benefits.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geaaronson wrote:
and do private students until the end of the summer.

I don't know if that's strictly ethical advice. Wink

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Any Brits out there teaching English in Mexico? do schools prefer N.Americans teaching in their classrooms?

I find this is a great country in which to be British (or Canadian) as there's no friction between Mexico and the UK. Students have this idea that we invented English and we all live in London.

As for schools, the ones that offer Cambridge exams may prefer British teachers. I haven't heard much of schools discriminating between nationalities as most are grateful to have native speakers.

500 quid will probably go a bit further outside of Mexico City and there are more than enough colonial towns/cities to choose from.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second Guy that I think you may need a little bit more money.

I usually recommend people arrive with 2000 US. Not that they will spend all that, but that will make sure you don't end up pennyless in Mexico.

Your FM3 will cost a little more than 2000 pesos. Places to live may be unfurnished so you may need to buy a bed.

If you travel off the main path, people will just assume your American but they won't descriminate against you for not being. You'll probably have this conversation several times.

"Where are you from?"
"England"
"What state is that in?"

Welcome to Mexico, try to enjoy the course.
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: A World of my Own

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Students have this idea that we invented English


Didn't we? Wink
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geaaronson



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: origins Reply with quote

I checked it out in the Guiness Book of Records, and it says there that our language was first started in New England, transferred to Great Britain and then brought back to the new country where it has reached its linguistic apex. How�s that for American jingoism?
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: origins Reply with quote

geaaronson wrote:
I checked it out in the Guiness Book of Records, and it says there that our language was first started in New England, transferred to Great Britain and then brought back to the new country where it has reached its linguistic apex. How�s that for American jingoism?


Why is this information (which makes little sense to me) in the Guiness Book of Records? What record is being set?
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:

"Where are you from?"
"England"
"What state is that in?"

I usually get: 'Ah (d)yes, London!' You'll be more than amused by Mexican geography. Draw a map of the UK and mainland Europe. You'll be surprised to find out that Africa is just off the Kent coast and Sweden is much closer than you think.
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TedSeastrom



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a Mexican English professor who teaches at an engineering school in D.F. He invited me to sit in on one of his classes--and corrected my American usage at times.

He says the school insists on teaching British English to its science students, as it is perceived as a higher class of English. It wasn't so much the accent (his parents are Mexican nationals, but he was born in the US and moved back at age 10) but turns of phrase and how some auxiliaries are used.

Of course, as an American, I'm hoping there's a place in this market for that lower form of English! I'm also from Indiana. In addition to the warmth Americans naturally inspire around the world (lol), I'm concerned that my diction devolves into a trailer park trash patois when I'm tired. And to add insult to injury, Americans love a British accent. Is there anyplace in the world that likes an American accent? (It doesn't help that Bush sounds like an uneducated hick from Texas--even to most Americans.)
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gypsygirl1475



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Properly spoken British English, in my opinion, is the the best. I think it is more understandible and has a nice educated chime. Wish I could relearn English with a British teacher. All the properly speaking British I have known don't have a strong accent, there words are more formal and pronunciation is more refined.
I am American.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TedSeastrom wrote:
Is there anyplace in the world that likes an American accent?

I like it, not sure why.

TedSeastrom wrote:
(It doesn't help that Bush sounds like an uneducated hick from Texas--even to most Americans.)

Sounds like or is?!
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
TedSeastrom wrote:
(It doesn't help that Bush sounds like an uneducated hick from Texas--even to most Americans.)

Sounds like or is?!


Is. Rolling Eyes

Strangely enough have had several Mexicans (all teachers of English) say to me, "Oh you're American, I thought you were British because you're so easy to understand!" Confused

I'm easy to understand because I come from the place with the "best English!" the accent all the US newsanchors cultivate. Laughing

Seriously, maybe it's 15 years of speaking mostly to non-native Speakers?
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the opposite experience to MELEE!

I'm a Brit (for those that are new here!) and I'm now saying "Priddy", "Thirdy", etc. and referring to "Gas" for the car and "Trash can". I think, because I starting talking that way so that people would understand me better (bedder?!)

I never had that "typical" British accent and when I watch Channel 22 (which I call BBC Mexico) I find all those "daaaaaaance" and "Paaaaaaast" slightly embarrasing. My wife, although she likes the British accent, says she hears "t-t-t-t-t" when those actors with cut glass accents are speaking. Very Happy
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