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The worst nonsense you've seen in a textbook
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easily Spoken Thai.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Easily does it Reply with quote

Or perhaps better yet:

Thai spoken easily.

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John
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanica wrote:
Easily Spoken Thai.


Yes, I am aware of the formation and usage of adverbs.

If, however, we treat "spoken Thai" as one single entity, we can modify it with the adjective "easy."

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: A horse of a different color Reply with quote

Dear denise,
Or, if we had a horse by that name (and added a comma) that would work, too.

"Whoa, boy - easy, Spoken Thai."
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: En garde Reply with quote

Dear denise,
Ah, admit it. You've missed my rapier-like wit, haven't you?
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John
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a quote from 'Easy Speak Thai' I mean, Easy Spoken Thai (the caps are theirs):

Let us emphasize the fact that YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE TONE RULES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, READ, AND WRITE THAI. Just as there are many native speakers of English who do not understand grammar rules but are still able to speak, read, and write English, there are also many native speakers of Thai who do not understand the tone rules but are still able to speak, read, and write Thai. You can do the same.

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AND NOW LET US TAKE THE LIBERTY OF WISHING YOU GOOD LUCK -- CHOK DEE! -- with your 'Easy Spoken Thai'.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: It ain't me, babe Reply with quote

Dear Vanica,
Me ain't got no monies is, I suppose, "understandable." But heck, communication is difficult even when you know the rules and use them.
Good Luck, indeed.
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John
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denise



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I most certainly did miss you, dear Mr. johnslat!

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kaw



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOps - seem to have come in a bit late on this. The line I'll never forget was whilst in my first job for inlingua and from one of their masterpieces under the section 'for adults only' came................wait for it....................'he kissed her fondly on the brow'!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder it was for adults only ......... disgusting behaviour.
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The English File, an otherwise largely credible series, drops to the level of pandering to the PC in Elementary. In a picture- connect vocab exercise there is a church and a mosque, and a reference to a mosque in a pairwork exercise in the connected unit. Never mind that elsewhere in the book there are pictures of alcohol ( a large pint of Guiness and a bottle of champagne to name but two), and women in dress, poses which would be deemed provocative/suggestive in Muslim eyes, this is plain b*ll*cks. What about a Hindu temple, a synagogue, and a Scientology outlet, all common in the UK? Presumably the followers of religions other than Christianity and Islam don't study English.

The good thing about PC is that alot of it isn't law, and whilst I am in no way racist or as ignorant as to profess hatred against any group, there is a great joy to be had, when being maithered by some PC twerp, from telling them to go and reproduce.
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guangho



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though not in a textbook, my CELTA course featured an audiotape, allegedly to be used in intermediate settings of an overexcited British gentleman at an awards show. Speaking like Richard Simmons at tea time he intoned "And there comes Cecilia Longley. Would you look at that dress? Wow! And her husband Edward Smithereens is right behind her. Gained a little weight I see."
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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Could that be another example of a British textbook either taking a wild guess at how Americans talk or just mocking our supposed idiocy?


The Brits do indeed delight in mocking our supposed idiocy, but it seems they have plenty of idiocy of their own:

Quarter of Brits think Churchill was myth: poll

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080204/od_afp/britainpeoplehistoryoffbeat
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That poll is indeed worrying - such ignorance is unforgivable (it's not like we're living in the Dark Ages anymore, when real figures might well have become myths as they receded into less well-recorded history).
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not living in The Dark Ages any more???? Don't be too sure, they don't make a colour of black to describe what's just round the corner.....
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