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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: Canadian man killed in Thailand |
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Canadian man killed in Thailand
Sean Myers, CanWest News Service
A Calgary man was shot and killed in Thailand early Sunday morning - less than a week after arriving - leaving his family to grasp for the details of his fate.
According to media reports, a police officer shot Leo Del Pinto, 25, twice - once in the face and once in the torso - in a bar in the town of Pai. Del Pinto's girlfriend, Carly Reisig, was also shot in the incident and was taken to hospital. |
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=12043e84-6c0e-4db9-a962-3aea26de8416&k=85067
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...he had a job at a tattoo parlour and was hoping to teach English as a second language. |
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gusto102
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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I am sure that most foreigners here can relate a bad experience either they or someone they�ve known has had with the Thai police. I don�t know if anyone is clear in regards to the details involved in this shooting. One would think that there is more to this story than what the Canadian woman described. But this is Thailand and there seems to be a huge overlap between law enforcement and organized crime. This type of behavior happens all the time here as the Thai police are infamous for their gangster-like mentality. There was just recently another sad incident involving a karaoke singer who had her arm chopped off for refusing to go with a Thai police officer. The guy will probably get a slap on the wrist. Thailand would be better off without the police� or maybe a good dictator to get rid of the rampant corruption that runs through every level of society. |
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junkmail
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Once corruption is that institutionalized it becomes very difficult to get rid of. It's not helped by the pathetic wage structure of most Thai cops either.
I think a general raising of salaries, interest free mortgages, cheap vehicle loans etc.. with severe penalties for corruption might be a start.
When a government gives people badges, uniforms and guns with little salary, what do you think the message is? "Go and make your own money, we gave you the tools dammit!" |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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gusto102 wrote: |
I am sure that most foreigners here can relate a bad experience either they or someone they�ve known has had with the Thai police. |
I don't think so. I don't agree.
I've lived here six years and don't have any friends who have had "a bad experience" with the Thai police. But maybe we run in different circles, hang out in different places? |
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gusto102
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I did over generalize a little with that statement. I am however very surprised that you�ve been living here 6 years and haven�t known anyone that�s had a bad experience with the Thai police. Just the other day, my friend was fined 500 baht on the spot by the police for not wearing his seat belt while seated in the passenger side of a taxi. It really doesn�t matter where you hang or what circle you hang with� sometimes foreigners are just prime targets for them. Easy money I guess. |
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laconic
Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 198 Location: "When the Lord made me he made a ramblin man."
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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I've also lived in Thailand for six years in two different large cities. I've never had a problem with the Thai police and whenever I've encountered them they have been friendly and helpful. Does this mean bad things don't happen? No. It just means that good things happen, too. |
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junkmail
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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A guy dies and a priest asks for someone to read a eulogy. Everyone looks down and shuffles around uncomfortably. Priest says "someone must have something good to say about this guy!" An old man at the back says "Well, his brothers were worse."
I've seen worse, much worse corruption than Thailand but it doesn't make it right. Most Thai friends of mine recognize a problem so it does exist. I haven't come up much against it myself though.
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Just the other day, my friend was fined 500 baht on the spot by the police for not wearing his seat belt while seated in the passenger side of a taxi. |
If that happens simply ask the guy to write you a ticket. Usually solves the problem in most countries. Sometimes they will write the ticket though but I personally prefer not to encourage corruption in any country, if I'm caught speeding I'll pay the often larger fine. |
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