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Questions on Final Exit With Intent To Immediately Return
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Saudi4Ever



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Questions on Final Exit With Intent To Immediately Return Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

My husband was recently offered a new position and is expected to start in the middle of February. He has informed his current employer of the offer, but will not officially resign until he has been notified that the Saudi Embassy in Bahrain has our Visas. I have a few concerns:

1. We will go to Bahrain and get Visas there. Do you know if the whole family must exit together? I'm expecting to deliver a baby around this time and would prefer to stay and then exit later. Is it possible for my husband and children to exit without me, or does everyone have to clear out?

2. Do you know if most people receive their end of service bonus, along with anything else owed, on short term notice or is it likely to have to wait a while to get it?

Thanks in advance Smile

3. I welcome all helpful tips and comments, especially from those who have 'been there done that'.
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Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your husband has left on a final exit visa wouldn't you have lost all your medical cover anyway?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final Exit means for dependants too.
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Saudi4Ever



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scot47 and Stephen, since you were the first (only) to answer, you'll be stuck as my advisers Smile

Our current medical coverage, is only at Government Hospitals. A few years ago the Government, stop covering for births of expats. So we will be paying for this anyway...private hospital or otherwise.

I just received word from my husband that, he must give at least one month notice to his job. His future employer wants him to start Feb 13th with classes starting Feb 16th. If he gives notice today, he may be able to at least make it on time for the first day of classes. However, we're nervous. The job offer said, NOT to resign from current job or vacate housing UNTIL we have our new Visas in our passports. Of course that is impossible, because we must exit first. So this decision to notify his job today is weighing heavily on us. We want to do this, but you know how things don't always go as planned. The new employer appears to be reliable...

Good news is, I can now set the date for my delivery (c-sec) and not worry about having the baby in Bahrain.
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The job offer said, NOT to resign from current job or vacate housing UNTIL we have our new Visas in our passports.


They all say that. It mostly refers to people who are living outside KSA at the time of offer, as of course in the vast majority of cases you cannot re-enter on a work visa until you have already exited on a final-exit from the previous job.

There is what is called a "transferable Iqama" but clearly that doesn't apply in your case.

Are you talking about work visas or business visas, in relation to both present and future employers? This is a most important distinction, which some on this forum appear to fail to make.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another point is that, if you are leaving one job in KSA only to go back to another within a few months, you will of course need a No Object Cert (NOC) from your first employer. Are you certain this will be forthcoming?
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007



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions on Final Exit With Intent To Immediately Retur Reply with quote

Saudi4Ever wrote:
Is it possible for my husband and children to exit without me, or does everyone have to clear out?


It depends on the type of his Visa/Iqama.
If your husband is the 'Kafeel' (sponsor) for you and your children, then it is not possible for him to exit with a final exit visa witout you!
The 'Jawazaat' cannot issue him a final exit visa until you and your chidlren have a final exit visa on your passports.
He cannot exit and leave you behind.

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2. Do you know if most people receive their end of service bonus, along with anything else owed, on short term notice or is it likely to have to wait a while to get it?

It depends on the employer. Some may take 1 month, others may take up to 3 months!
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Saudi4Ever



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband has been on a Work Visa for several years now. We are all on the same iqama, except for our domestic helper, whom he is the khafeel (sponsor) for. He'll transfer her iqama to someone else before we leave. Which is interesting, because it only takes one day (about an hour) to do this, but he is being told by both employers that he can not transfer his iqama and one of the reasons is that it is too tme consuming.

Cleo, he has not checked on the NOC, as of yet, but he has no reason to believe that it will be withheld. his current employer is excellent and is sad to see him leave. In fact we are down grading by leaving, but there is more to life than money....right guys?
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007



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your husband has a car, he will not get a final exit visa until he sells the car, in addition he has to obtain a clearance letters (some employers ask for this letter) for his bills (rent, electricity, telephones, etc, etc,etc!).

Saudi4Ever wrote:
In fact we are down grading by leaving, but there is more to life than money....right guys?

Oh, indeed, life is not only money ...is more than that!
I know some people who are very rich but are very very sad within themselves! Laughing
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote