Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Motels
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
helenl



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UAE has tightened the border crossings at Buraimi - I would be surprised if you can cross there 'unofficially' at all.

There are UAE checkpoints at all major border crossings (Al Ain, Hatta, Fujairah, etc.). If you are a UAE resident - you have to pay for a visit visa - usually around AED50??(maybe less) if you are from outside the GCC you will have to pay around AED80.

I have had friends drive rental cars from UAE to Oman (believe it was with Hertz) but they had UAE drivers' licenses and GCC residency. The rental company gave them a car with insurance valid for Oman.

It's not a bad drive from Dubai via Hatta to Muscat - it's a 4 lane dual carriage way (2 lanes for either direction) well lit and basically, you go straight from Dubia to Hatta - go to the first roundabout and turn right and keep going straight until Muscat. Takes 4 - 4.5 hours depending on lineups at the border.

Omani border personnel will usually check your vehicle for any alcohol. Save the little piece of paper with the red stamp on it that they give you when you buy your visa - they will ask for it on the way out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great summary Helen1 Cool

When did the Emirates start manning the border posts? Up through 2000, I passed through those borders regularly and they were never open. You didn't even slow down. I always found it odd that they seemed to let Oman control the border. Was it the growth of tourism (and a new source of income) that started this up?

And with the tightening or rather the creating of a border at Buraimi - which for many years was merely a sign, one wonders whether the relationship between Oman and the UAE has deteriorated.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mishmumkin



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 929

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea how many border crossings there are? Oman wouldn't let us enter w/o the exit stamp from the UAE at Hatta's crossing, and there was a 7 km drive from the UAE's not-so-obvious border "trailer" and the Omani border buildings.

I wonder why, as a tourist, I didn't have to pay anyone crossing between those borders, though I was stamped at ever one and even had my retina scanned as I re-entered the UAE.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
helenl



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was about 4 years ago that UAE started up their border operations - and the border crossing at Hatta is deceptive as mishmumkin says - you actually have to look for it.

I know I had to pay 10AED at the UAE crossing and whatever the going rate was for a GCC resident at the Omani station there - maybe as a tourist they have an agreement that once you're in, you're in??

As for official crossings, I have only used 4 (2 in Al Ain, 1 in Hatta and the other in Fujairah).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thegreatergood



Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: blank Reply with quote

Razz

Last edited by thegreatergood on Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:43 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thegreatergood



Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: tips Reply with quote

TiP for drivers.
Both hands on the wheel at all times. Eyes always on the road, don't drift off. Keep checking the rear view mirrors, more than usual in fact. Vehicles can reach 200++ kilometers per hour if they have a young WastaFarian driving a new sports car. They don't feel the need to slow down and have been known to 'plow' into the back of vehicles that didn't move outta of the way fast enough. Causing cars to explode. Not really a rare occurance.


Last edited by thegreatergood on Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:43 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mishmumkin wrote:
.., though I was stamped at ever one and even had my retina scanned as I re-entered the UAE.

This mean that your retina data information will be send to CIA and will be stored in their database for 12 months, and your name is classified under 'category 3' in their international security scale. Laughing

I crossed from Saudi Arabia to UAE, and nobody scanned my retina.
When you enter SA, they will scan your car boot not your retina!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mishmumkin



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 929

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The borders are listed by someone else in this thread. You must leave and enter at the same border check point. Why? I don't know why.


This must be new. In Jan/Feb 2007 I left through the Hatta border and came back in via one of the Al Ain crossings.

Quote:
They scanned you because either you raised suspicion by being difficult or something random with your interaction with them, or had a passport they were concerned about. I do know other Auzzies who had their eyes scanned. I have crossed every check point over forty times and never been scanned.


I think it was on the Thorn Tree Planet where someone said any tourist re-entering the UAE w/ a passport on the ground was subject to retina scans. I suspect GCC residents moving between countries would not be subject to this.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I must disagree with thegreatergood. For a huge portion of the world - North America - and probably most other places, a four lane means two lanes each way - a two lane is one lane each way. In my many years of reading travel books and living abroad, I have never heard your definition.

I have done the drive both ways many times and personally it is no more dangerous than driving anywhere else... totally relaxing compared to Kuwait or Washington DC. All is relative... those with little driving experience may find it stressful.

But, you have to be a defensive driver... common sense everywhere in the world. I found the greatest danger to be the goats in Oman. At least now in the Emirates, they fence the camels off the road.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Actually I must disagree with thegreatergood. For a huge portion of the world - North America - and probably most other places, a four lane means two lanes each way - a two lane is one lane each way. In my many years of reading travel books and living abroad, I have never heard your definition.

"Motorways are high capacity roads designed to carry fast motor traffic safely. In the United Kingdom they are predominantly dual-carriageway roads, with two, three or four lanes in each direction (usually three), and all have grade-separated access, comparable with North American freeways and expressways."

"A freeway � also known as a highway, superhighway, autoroute, autobahn, autopista, autov�a, autostrada, dual carriageway, expressway, or motorway ..... Such highways are usually divided with at least two lanes in each direction.."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorway
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mishmumkin



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 929

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the UAE roads and driving habits most strongly resemble the N. American system of roads.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:
"A freeway � also known as a highway, superhighway, autoroute, autobahn, autopista, autov�a, autostrada, dual carriageway, expressway, or motorway ..... Such highways are usually divided with at least two lanes in each direction.."

As usual 007 that was totally unhelpful. There is nothing there to suggest that a highway with two lanes in each direction would not be called a four-lane - as it is for hundreds of millions of people in North America at least.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Longton



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 148

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can give you up-to-date info on the crossing at Hatta. I am resident in UAE and together with two friends who were here on holiday we had a trip to Muscat about 10 days ago. We are all British. We went by my UAE registered car. The border crossing on departure and arrival was practically deserted � it was mid to late afternoon. The Omani passport office is in a huge building, rather like a palace. There were no iris scans. We were waved straight through customs by both UAE and Omani officials. Entering Oman I had to pay Dhs20 to Omani passport control and my two friends paid nothing. Returning I paid dhs30 and my two friends nothing. My Omani stamp allowed me to stay 28 days (for GCC residents) and my two friends has stamps for 21 days. I think the cost was for taking the car into and out of Oman. It couldn't have been any simpler and hassle free and is a great deal easier than taking a car across the causeway between Bahrain and Saudi. From the border to Muscat there is a dual carriageway (2 lanes in each direction) with a speed limit of Km120. It's a very good road but rather boring scenery. Petrol is a bit more expensive in Oman. I found the standard of driving in Oman much higher than that of UAE.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mishmumkin



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Posts: 929

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longton, did you enter and return via the hatta border?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thegreatergood



Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: lol...we have really gotten into this now..hahaha Reply with quote

You will never hear ..oh they have a sixteen lane highway. Or do they? I don't recall hearing it in Cali. Was always, the six lane or 8 lane. And by this they clearly ment in each direction.

In America it could be that there are different usages of terms.
As we know language is quite liquid.


Retina scans happen at the UAE check points. They have the machines inside the buildings. You would not know about them unless you are pulled in for one. It is uncommon to be asked.

UAE and Oman safe driving ??!!! Mmmmmm that is quite funny.
The only reason Oman might appear safer (but it is not), is due to less
traffic. Signifigantly less.

Check your government web sites for information on road safety in the Middle East. Under the travel warning section listed by country.

Have a great trip ! Confused Confused Confused Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China