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Job Application - Do the Questions Make You Uncomfortable To

 
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LarryK



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Job Application - Do the Questions Make You Uncomfortable To Reply with quote

Hi:

I taught over in South Korea the past year and while on vacation in Thailand I decided to look at the teaching market.

The job applications I've been asked to complete include all the questions that are prohibited back home: age, race, religion, marital status ...even "scars?" A photo, of course, was also requested.

Is racism as bad in Thailand as it is in some other Asian countries, example, South Korea, where I read news stories that black applicants were told they were wasting their time applying for teaching positions (and also wondering if antisemitism is as bad as it is in Korea).

After reviewing the applications, I started feeling conflicted, that putting my signature on the form would mean sacrificing personal integrity...or am I reading this wrong and this is just a standard form for doing business here in Thailand and nothing more?
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markle



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you add application questions regarding "age, race, religion, marital status" and a photo" up to equalling racism?

BTW these things are banned back 'home' because of the history of racism back 'home', not necessarily due a history of it in Thailand.

If you don't want to answer, don't, nobody will bat an eyelid.

All the usual types of discrimination are present in Thailand and Thais are guilty of being a little unsophisticated about it.
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guty



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please finish the following sentence:
Do the Questions Make You Uncomfortable To .....

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Is racism as bad in Thailand as it is in some other Asian countries, example, South Korea


Is it possible to answer that without making sweeping generalisations about the characteristics of a whole race? Wouldn't that be akin to racism?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The questions stated are common in Europe too.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also in Latin America.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And not to put too fine a point on it, but the attitudes, racism and various appearance related prejudices, that you are worried that they reflect are common EVERYWHERE.

It isn't legal to ask some of those questions, for example, in the US. But that only means that the prejudices are less overt there nowadays. Not that we're truly a society free of racism and all forms of prejudice. (Ha, ha.)

I don't answer questions that make me uncomfortable, and try to let potential employers know why. On more than one occasion that has ended the application process. No problem, as I don't really want to work for anyone who's already making me uncomfortable in the application process.

BUT; it's probably over generalization to assume that a whole country, nationality, or race is more "racist" than any other, merely because they ask questions you aren't used to.

THere are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies. (Or however that one went.)


Best,
Justin
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't think it's anyone's business to know how old I am or whether or not I'm married, but if I'm asked, then I add them to my CV. I don't include them on my standard CV, though, and I only include a photo if specifically asked for one, though.

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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of like my last university job in Korea when I was basically asked if I was married and liked Korean women. The Korean professor doing the hiring was more interested if I was gay or not than if I could teach.

Now that I am in Taiwan I get pissed at the fact that people cannot even read my application. Furthermore people keep on asking me where I live and if the job is too far from my home. They should let me decide how far I am willing to commute to work.
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MELEE



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