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Jeembo007



Joined: 14 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: What's going on??? Reply with quote

I really am desperate to get out to Shanghai and unfortunately I'm quite fussy too.

I've been applying for jobs in and near Shanghai and so far have turned down about 6 offers that I considered to be either dodgy (i.e. no contract or "oh don't bother with the working visa, it's far too much hassle, we'll sort it all out for you when you get here...honest") or the offers have been too low (8000RMB in Shanghai with no accomodation!).

I know that being fussy is going to make my life difficult when it comes to finding jobs in Shanghai and I do accept that, however now that the spring festival is over and more schools are recruiting for this period I see more better offers. But they all have a catch...."Can you come out next week????". I'm in England for godsake!!!! I can't get a flight sorted that quickly nor do I expect the Z visa will get sorted that quickly!!

I thought this time of year was the best time of year for sorting out a job, but I appear to be wrong. Is it better to wait a few months? Is it actually possible to arrange a job about a month in advance instead of a week?

This is getting so frustrating, I've been saving up money for the last 6 months in preparation for moving to Shanghai, and I've been looking for jobs for the last 3 months. I've finally got everything sorted that I needed to here back home and I'm ready to go as soon as is possible, but a week is ridiculous.

I have white skin, all the qualifications and experience, so none of that is a problem. It's just finding the right job.

Does anyone have any comforting words?
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who told you the period AFTER Spring Festival break was the best time to get a job? From all the threads I read (and I've read plenty) most knowledgeable Dave's members advise for spring is to apply in late December to maybe mid-ish January. Get your contract, visa, plane ticket, etc. in order, then arrive a day or two before the spring semester starts.

If you want a summer job, start about April. September start? Maybe about May to early July. See, most schools hire for the immediate work period coming up. Not too many will be thinking about next fall yet. First they have to a) get the ball rolling for this semester and b) start recruiting for summer camp programs. Once that mess is all ironed out, then they think about the fall semester.

If you want to come right away, you may have to endure a six month contract with a language mill while seeking "real" jobs in the meantime to start in the fall.
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Jiangsu Province

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

The main starting date is the 1st September for most jobs here. The ones leaving a job now will mainly be those leaving a bad job mid contract.

Last edited by Anda on Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:32 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Jeembo007



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the replies.

I did start applying the end of december onwards, but I just couldn't find anything. Now there seem to be loads more jobs available but they all start next week.

I may have a job offer starting in August, I still have to have another interview with that school, but I really wanted to come out sooner. Am I less likely to find work from now on? Is it best to wait until August?
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11:59



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: Hong Kong: The 'Pearl of the Orient'

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anda wrote:
The ones living a job not will mainly be those leaving a bad job mid contract.

What does this mean when translated from Anda-speak? What does "living a job not" mean?

Anyway, to the OP, you state that 8,000 RMB is too low for Shanghai, but from the little I know of the market up there that is actually quite a tidy sum. After all, 8,000 RMB a week equates to some 32,000 RMB a month, which is reasonable for the 'fastest growing economy in the world'. Having said that though, most people I know at international schools in Shanghai earn between 40,000 RMB and 50,000 RMB a month, so it is still well below that.
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malu



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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Location: Sunny Java

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeembo007 wrote:
Now there seem to be loads more jobs available but they all start next week.



Those are the jobs that were fled by the former incumbents. There can't be a FAO in China that doesn't heave a huge sigh of relief when all the laowai come back after the holiday.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the OP mentioned "a week" for his salary or maybe I missed it. Yes, 8 thou a week would be pretty darn good in almost any city. I also think he mentioned that he would have to cough up the cost of rent. There are too many schools that give free accommodations or offer salary plus a "bonus" (or whatever) to cover most or all of your living expenses.

Yeah, like malu said - - the current job offers are the sudden holes created when all those unprofessional (in my opinion, so go ahead and bite my head off) FTs decided for greener pastures during the holiday.
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Kilroy



Joined: 19 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also didn't see anything along the lines of '8000RMB per week' by the OP. But then again, when I first read the first sentense of the post, I read... desperate to get out OF Shanghai - instead of out TO. It was only later in the thread that I realized I got it wrong. Just goes to show... we see what we want to see, and hear what we want to hear... Very Happy It probably holds true for reading as well.

If it's 'getable' (8000 per week in SH) - sweet, go for it I'd say... but then again - if something sounds to be good true, it probably is.

KR.
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