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Hoser
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 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: In celebration of the glorious revolution... |
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| Anybody read the Daily Yomiuri today? I was a little tickled to see different companies celebrating the 'Glorious Revolution' of Iran day. I didn't even realize there was such a thing. I'm used to seeing "Happy India Day" or Happy Abujibeckistan Day" or something like that. I can't really comment about the pros or cons of the Iranian Revolution although I'm a little disturbed to see travel companies like Hit Travel supporting a regime that condones hostage taking. Perhaps their new offer is going to be "Lowest Airfare and a Complimentary hijacking with every return ticket"? |
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BobbyBan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| It's just business. By the way, which hostages do you mean? |
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Hoser
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| The Iran Hostage crisis of 1979. |
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BobbyBan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Hoser wrote: |
| The Iran Hostage crisis of 1979. |
Oh that! I dunno really how they condone hostage taking. They took those Americans in the Embassy hostage because they blamed the US for the Shah's behaviour and for the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq by the CIA and MI6 in 1953. They probably wondered how the US could condone intervention to overthrow elected prime ministers and install a new Caesar.
By the way, where is Abujibeckistan? |
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Hoser
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I was just joking because you never see any "Happy Canada Day" advertisements or anything like that. It's always some shit third world country. |
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poohbear
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| BobbyBan wrote: |
| Hoser wrote: |
| The Iran Hostage crisis of 1979. |
Oh that! I dunno really how they condone hostage taking. They took those Americans in the Embassy hostage because they blamed the US for the Shah's behaviour and for the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq by the CIA and MI6 in 1953. They probably wondered how the US could condone intervention to overthrow elected prime ministers and install a new Caesar.
By the way, where is Abujibeckistan? |
lol bobbyBan you crack me up. fantastic post.
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| I was just joking because you never see any "Happy Canada Day" advertisements or anything like that. It's always some *beep* third world country. |
not true at all, as a canadian i remember canada day's posting perfectly fine in that paper, just look it up july 1st. The US practically had a 2 page spread in the daily yomiuri celebrating their independance day. |
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Mothy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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You don't know how they condone hostage taking? Any country that supports Hamas and Hezbollah condones hostage taking and worse. And I know you can come back with such and such country (probably the US) does such and such a terrible thing (maybe tortures prisoners but there's a lot to choose from) but really since the comment was that you don't know how Iran condones hostage taking any other finger pointing is irrelevant. Yes, they do condone taking hostages.
As to the OPs comment about the ad in the paper. Yeah I noticed it. What I thought was funny that except for the ad for Hit Travel, all the other ads were for places with names like Iran Air, and Iran Shipping, which obviously were Iranian companies, so I thought the lack of support for Iran was pretty funny. |
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BobbyBan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Good point, Mothy. There is no need to start pointing fingers at any other country when denouncing the behaviour of one. I certainly do not condone any country taking hostages so we should be quite clear that Iran was in the wrong to take hostages in 1979.
If we subtract all extraneous situations or information it becomes far easier to make a blanket condemnation on an act of hostage-taking. It really bothers me also that the US - for some bizarre reason - gets a lot of flak for the behaviour of Iran. The detention of diplomats is the detention of diplomats do let's not talk about anything that happened to incite this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_raid_on_Iranian_liaison_office_in_Arbil
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| As to the OPs comment about the ad in the paper. Yeah I noticed it. What I thought was funny that except for the ad for Hit Travel, all the other ads were for places with names like Iran Air, and Iran Shipping, which obviously were Iranian companies, so I thought the lack of support for Iran was pretty funny. |
I could be wrong but anyone with a Japan Times of that day may have noticed that an ad for Mitsubishi was also in there. Yes, I know, Hoser was reading the Yomiuri, but Mitsubishi is not an Iranian company last I heard. |
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BobbyBan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Just to reiterate, I am against hostage-taking:
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A failed American attempt to abduct two senior Iranian security officers on an official visit to northern Iraq was the starting pistol for a crisis that 10 weeks later led to Iranians seizing 15 British sailors and Marines.
Early on the morning of 11 January, helicopter-born US forces launched a surprise raid on a long-established Iranian liaison office in the city of Arbil in Iraqi Kurdistan. They captured five relatively junior Iranian officials whom the US accuses of being intelligence agents and still holds.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-botched-us-raid-that-led-to-the-hostage-crisis-443102.html |
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poohbear
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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ooooooohhhh why not....
-i'm against the funding of death sqauds in countries that the US government supports (el salvador)
-im against the US government's support that use indiscriminate bombing of residential areas and use collective punishment (israel)
-im against the US governments support in arming dictators and ruthless regimes (indonesia)
-im against the US governments support of dictators that they armed w/ biological weapons (US to saddam hussein during 80's)
-im against the US government's preemptive strike docrtine wherein u can invade other countries that never attacked you but conveniently have alot of oil.
yadda yadda yadda. dont be so one sided, america supported the shah who was a ruthless dictator which brought about a revolution, sucks that it was an islamic revolution, but we can't control stuff like that can we? |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| What does any of this have to do with TEFL or Japan? |
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poohbear
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| good point, it shopuld definetly be moved to another forum. just cause of reading an article in the daily yomiuri doesnt exactly qualify it to be in the japan forums |
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