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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: Producing Handout Materials in Mexico |
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I was reading "What to do about prepa students so horrible" and there was mention of collecting money from students to make photocopies.
I make a lot of my own handouts when writing lesson plans. Since advertising is my background the creation of handouts is one of my strong points.
While I'm in Canada I have a scanner/printer and I can afford the ink cartridges. Mexico will be another story.
I will likely be teaching adults in a private language school. I imagine I'll have to say goodbye to colour copies. I'm not bringing my printer, too impractical.
Here's the question - what are the chances of my working at a school that has the capabilties of my plugging my computer into a printer, printing a copy and then making photocopies? Is the alternative going to a print shop? Am I foolish to imagine Mexican print shops will have the capability of printing from my computer and then making photocopies? |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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A USB device is great for such issues. If you are working at a private school then there should be a computer lab where you could either use the USB to transfer the data and print off their computer (not likely in colour though) or you might be able to configure your computer to wirelessly print. You should also (hopefully) have access to a photocopy, although you might have to submit copies a few days ahead to have someone at the school make them for you. If not, collecting money and doing it yourself is easily done.
There are a TON of copy places here, and they are usually very reasonable. Again, a USB would likely come in handy, as I am not sure how likely it is that you would be able to hook your computer up to one of their printers to print the original and then make copies.
You really shouldn't have problems making copies, but rather the issue will come with the convince, and/or the cost. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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At the university I taught at, excessive photocopying was a big issue. There were restrictions placed on staff who overdid it.
I found this comment interesting:
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I make a lot of my own handouts when writing lesson plans. Since advertising is my background the creation of handouts is one of my strong points. |
Can you crank out those handouts quickly? When you're teaching, for example, 20-plus one-hour classes a week, you won't have a lot of time for handout creation. |
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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Silly me - of course I'd use a memory stick - what was I thinking???
1s650, in answer to your question about cranking out handouts and how fast - it depends on the handout. I imagine I will do a lot of recycling once hired and I develop a ciriculum, or a ciriculum is given to me.
In Canada, Manitoba anyway, obviously you'd know more about BC, adult ESL does not have a standardized cirriculum. Each teacher developes a cirriculum tailored to his/her students. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Curriculum? My experience is that with most language schools, an EFL text gets shoved into your hands and you're told "Teach what's in this book." |
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sarliz

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Jalisco
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have my mac laptop with me, and before I had my own printer, I would get around compatability issues my creating materials on my computer in my apartment, then emailing them to myself (internet in the apartment is a given for this), and opening and printing them in an internet joint. I'd usually then make copies in another place with better rates than the cyber cafe. So I guess this could work if you have a mac, or don't want to go the memory stick route. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Curriculum? My experience is that with most language schools, an EFL text gets shoved into your hands and you're told "Teach what's in this book." |
Ahh, the very essence of TEFL.
I sometimes collect a few pesos from uni students when I get copies as teachers have to pay for their own!! The students are usually happy to cooperate. |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: handouts |
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No way, Jose. I refuse to take another job in which I am not allowed to add my own handouts. Did that once, out of desperation, and regretted it to a great degree. I hand out short stories for my private and corporate students, usually about one every two weeks, as well as exercises on grammar points that I note they need help on. Even my most advance conversationalists have problems with on/at/in so I make sure they get the dope on that along with the exercises for them to work on. And oh yes, I make the xeroxes at the corporate offices themselves and no one has batted an eyelash. If need be and I have to run off a few quick copies, that`s where Kinky`s comes in.
Is ciriculum a pun? |
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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Curiculum is not a pun, its a spelling error, I think? And, it may be my spelling error.
Geaarson how much time do you spend travelling from office to offfice. I'm hoping I can work in one spot. The idea of spending half my day on a bus doesn't appeal to me at all. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Oreen Scott wrote: |
Geaarson how much time do you spend travelling from office to offfice. I'm hoping I can work in one spot. The idea of spending half my day on a bus doesn't appeal to me at all. |
If you end up working for a language school in Mexico City (which is what I have first-hand knowledge of), you'll find the pay per hour much better for teaching company classes, though you do spend lots of (unpaid) time traveling from class to class. Unfortunately, that's where most of the work is here. |
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JakeJakeJake
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 135
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Travel time could be a useful time, I guess. I'm hoping to treat it as my conversation class.
How are you recieved in DF having a chat to a stranger on public transport?
London is great.... during the day you're ignored. At others you can collect knife holes. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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One has to manage travel time carefully or it can get out of hand. When I first arrived in this city, I ran myself ragged traveling up, down, and inside out to get to classes. Once you get a feel for distances and transportation, you can tailor your teaching schedule quite nicely by accepting classes in groups in a particular area of town (Santa Fe, for example).
Living centrally helps as well, so you move against the comings and goings of all those Edomex people (burb dwellers). I'm in colonia Roma, near a few travel hubs (metro Insurgentes, Metrobus line, two major avenues for buses) and can get to pretty much anywhere I need to be within 30 minutes.
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How are you recieved in DF having a chat to a stranger on public transport? |
Chilangos are a warm folk. I've gotten many private classes over the years from metro encounters. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
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How are you recieved in DF having a chat to a stranger on public transport? |
Chilangos are a warm folk. I've gotten many private classes over the years from metro encounters. |
I agree, Guy, that chilangos are nice people. I wonder, then, why they have such a negative reputation in other parts of the country. It's kind of the way people from New York City are regarded in the rest of the US, especially by those who've never been to the Big Apple. |
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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'Death by handout' Try exploiting the coursebook more often and more extensively. When I started teaching, I used to do lots of copies and handouts until I realised they did little to go with my aims for the lesson. If you don't need handouts to kill time, I suggest paying more attention to the coursebook. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, Guy, that chilangos are nice people. I wonder, then, why they have such a negative reputation in other parts of the country. It's kind of the way people from New York City are regarded in the rest of the US, especially by those who've never been to the Big Apple. |
Yup, very much the same kind of relationship. I'm told Londoners are seen the same way, and Torontonians in Canada, to a lesser degree.
I think the problem is when you find a chilango outside of Mexico City. They can come off as loud, demanding, and perhaps arrogantly wealthy compared to a lot of other places in Mexico. Semana Santa on any beach is a good example. I'm using a broad paintbrush here of course, as not everyone is like that. |
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