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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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When I was teaching at a certain large teaching establishment in Moscow last year there were boo coo people teaching privates on the side and claiming to collect up to $80 per hour. I don�t know how true that was, but that�s what they said.... some of them.
The hassle is likely to be getting permission to hang out, now that the visa regs are somewhat tightened up. I have been thinking of going back and having a stab at teaching medical english .... someday. |
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It's not unusual to charge 2000 rublees per academic. That's �40 and yes about $80. To get this you have to be well established known locally. Not a figure for the short term visiter.
We don't often talk about dollars here nowadays, and most who have had their salary payed based on the $ have now requested to have their contract renewed, based on rublee or Euro.
Large figure prices are now normally discussed, although I will always think in ���s. It's easy , �20 to every 1000 rublees. |
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mdk
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 425
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Moscow! Moscow! Moscow!
It is like the 3 sisters in Chekhov�s play. Everybody wants to go to Moscow. There are lots of nice places to live besides Moscow. Take some time and learn a little Russian. Then look around. Russia is a nice country if you spend a little time to find a good place and don�t go to places like Tyumen, for example.
I remember when I was living outside Moscow you could get a seat within 20 meters of the stage while a laureate violinist played Brahms� violin concerto. It cost me six dollars for these seats. Try to get that in Moscow. Hah! Good luck. |
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canucktechie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 343 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| Everybody wants to go to Moscow. |
Well no they don't. People go to Moscow because that's where the jobs are, or at least all the jobs that pay enough to live on decently.
If the jobs in Moscow didn't pay more than anywhere else, you would see a huge exodus out of the city, and that goes just as much for Russians as for expats. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: Absolutely! |
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The sole reason that people are pouring into Moscow from outside is money of course, because that's where the jobs are!The cost of living in general has risen considerably everywhere in Russia during the last year or so but wages outside the capital are usually much lower!
As a result the place is bursting at the seams,the traffic is often at a standstill and the metro and buses are a nightmare throughout the day,rather than just in the rush-hour!The quality of life is consequently poorer for almost everybody,despite all the money which the capital boasts it is awash with!No wonder holidays abroad or even to quieter places nearby are all the rage because people are trying to save their sanity by escaping whenever they can.......Increased demand means increased prices for appartments etc and who can blame landlords for 'making hay while the sun shines!!'
Where will it all end?Who knows-in Russia, everything is possible!
I fully agree that there are much nicer-and mentally and physically healthier places- to live in Russia, but money makes the world go around, there, just as much as in other places! |
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mdk
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| The sole reason that people are pouring into Moscow from outside is money of course, because that's where the jobs are! |
It�s not true you know. I know of several jobs going wanting in Tomsk for instance. You have to be willing to be paid what a Russian English teacher would get, but (as you may have guessed) I liked teaching there. For one thing there weren�t a lot of tedious clowns who had come to Russia to make money.
Of course, such tedious clowns are not to be found in Moscow either where all of the TEFL teachers are dedicated professionals. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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On a discussian with my Russian students, caused by Market leader upper intermediate, there impression is that they are many great offers to get out of Moscow from those other cities and towns. Thatat they do realise thta due to the problem of Moscow having all the professionalism and talent etc, that they must entice those from Moscow with greater packages. Otherwise those other outside areas won't get the the required professional workforce that they want.
Therefore they are pressurised to make great package offers that exceeds what Moscow offers.
Great, will they do this for EFL teachers ?? Otherwise forget it , as I don't want to know. PERIOD! |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| They already make much better offers to teachers in the western oblast for example. Simply 25 km from the nearest moscow metro. And they offer free a minibus service at a convenient location in Moscow. The income is normally at least double the usual, and due to shortages normally negotiable to get much higher income. Unfortunately for some the high demand is for children and teenagers. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: Teaching children etc. |
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Bels is absolutely right(to give him credit,he usually is about everything to do with Russia!)-there are very well paid jobs out in Zhukovka and Rublevo etc. which usually involve teaching either kids, some of whom are very young, up to teenagers.They are either at private houses or in small groups at special schools for the upper income bracket families.This is an elitist area and their parents often have very big money!
Teaching children requires certain qualities of character and abilities,plus the correct training and a genuine interest and liking for them.It is certainly not a job to do just because it pays well.Maybe because of my age,I don't have either the patience or the rapport with them and stick to adults and older teenagers whenever I can.When I first went to Moscow to teach,I was given several state schools where I had about 8 academic hours per week in total,in addition to my adult groups and 1/1 at the firms office.This was not not what I expected after being interviewed in London and basically I went along with it as | |