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dawnbuckley
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 Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: Can I get a job without TEFL cert in Vietnam? |
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Hi,
I am thinking of Vietnam. I have a degree and MA and experience but no tefl. I really don`t feel like paying for one as I completed 3 weeks of a 4 week celta and had to miss the end for family reasons. Which was annoying. Is it possible at all to get a job without it?
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mickeyrex
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No problem.
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profelvis
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: 'cert can't be notarised' - is this universal? |
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| Jerrymcb wrote: |
| I got a TESOL cert in Vietnam from a major advertiser and though the experience of the course helped, it mainly served to show the difference of the book from the cover. The cert itself cannot be notarised anywhere but Thailand ( if indeed it can be done there ), consequently it's never been of any use to me in terms of gaining a work permit, job etc. |
I posted an appeal for any views on the two (that I've come across from web searches) CELTA trainers in Vietnam a couple of days ago, without any joy. I'm alarmed to hear that the cert might be useless! Forgive my extreme ignorance here, but what does notarising usually involve? From the current vantage point of Blighty, I've come across the term but not any explanation. |
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dawnbuckley
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: Vietnam without TEFL |
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Hi Guys,
Thank for the helpful and encouraging replies!
Do you have any recommmendations of places to apply to? I do have an interview with Apollo on Tuesday, but I have a feeling she is going to ask me about my TEFL and reject me!
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deessell2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Can I get a job without TEFL cert in Vietnam? |
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| dawnbuckley wrote: |
Hi,
I am thinking of Vietnam. I have a degree and MA and experience but no tefl. I really don`t feel like paying for one as I completed 3 weeks of a 4 week celta and had to miss the end for family reasons. Which was annoying. Is it possible at all to get a job without it?
Thanks,
Dawn |
Yes, it's possible to get a job but if you want to get a work permit your MA or degree must be in English if you don't have a teaching certificate. |
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Vince
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When you say "MA or degree," I assume degree means a BA or BS.
Current: I have a BA in English and six years of TEFL experience in Tokyo. Am I correct in understanding this would qualify me for a work permit?
Future: I'm getting ready to begin an MS Ed. in education. I might do a TEFL cert along the way. If my BA in English isn't enough, would this MS Ed and/or cert suffice for a work permit? |
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MiBoo
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This won't really answer your questions, but...I think its important to remember that very very often you don't actually need a work permit. I was on some kind of business visa which was renewed every 6 months or so by my school (and yes, I have BA and CELTA so am certainly eligible for the permit, its just that it didn't seem to be necessary!). Other teachers in other schools had similar deals going as far as I could tell. Certainly not everyone teaching in vn has a degree and/or cert. (some have neither). What is 'officially' required in vietnam, and what actually happens in reality are frequently two quite different things!!
I seem to remember hearing that in order to get a work permit you need to be sponsored by a particular school/organisation, and therefore effectively commit to working for them for the duration. Perhaps someone else knows if this is true or not? |
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