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Glad to be making PLN, or bummed because the dollar tanked?

 
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dynow



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Glad to be making PLN, or bummed because the dollar tanked? Reply with quote

Those of you (us) with bank accounts in dollars in America, are you glad you're earning a rising currency these days, or pi$$ed off your bank account is slowly dwindling to nothing???
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scottie1113



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Location: Gdansk

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I don't have any accounts in the US and am paid in zl, it hasn't affected me, although it will in a couple of years when I start receiving a small pension in dollars. Oh well.
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maniak



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked a wall street friend what I should with all of $ when I moved here a year ago...

I emptied my accounts, dumped my IRA and paid the penalty, and exchanged every penny except for a few dollars to pay off my student loans. Also told me to invest in gold but I though that was a little too tin-foil for me... dammit.

2.24zl - 1 dollar
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BeatRippa



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently saving in dollars since I plan to move over there this summer. It's beginning to feel depressing as it feels like I'm working/saving for almost nothing. haha Do you guys think the exchange rate will go back up once Bush is out?
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, not for quite a while. The US economy is in a ression, the Fed just cut interest rates again so overseas money isn't flowing into US bonds, etc.
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phantombedwetter



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Location: Pikey infested, euro, cess-pit (Krakow)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.. not the "R" word.

Will it spread to Poland?
Will we all be out of a job?

After all, who wants English lessons if they can't afford to eat?

I'll have to put my wife on the game, .....again.

Perhaps we could start a whole new English for Specific Purposes (ESP) topic... English for sex workers.

ESP for recession survival
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Big_Cannon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last summer my girl and I felt the exchange pinch buying euros from dirhams, and again, felt another hiccup exchanging euros for zlotys.
Dogged by the newspapers and Bloomberg, I can only imagine that this is the way "We The People" hold of the cards in the global market.
US policy- let the dollar sink, cut interest so the American people can borrow more, spend more and buy domestic instead of foreign (European and Chinese products)
EU policy- with a strong euro exports suffer, oil comes cheaper and the profit goes back to Exxon (US) and the Gulf.
Gulf policy- with their currency pegged to the $ they will continue cutting the oil output so the price goes up and consequently they can make up for their losses on a weak dollar.
In Poland, you're all going to face the insufferable gravitas when you sign in the eurozone.


In short while the US and China battle for trade hegemony, Europe is caught in the middle. Banks will continue to struggle in a world of numbers without actual purchasing power, in a downward spiral because of mortgaging more and more leverage. So the losers will always be the highlighted currencies and the winners, of course, will be the oil companies. Get a hold of Exxon shares for instance! What a mo'fu!


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Richfilth



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Cannon wrote:

EU policy- with a strong euro exports suffer, oil comes cheaper and the profit goes back to Exxon (US) and the Gulf.


I don't understand a word of that. Sure, with a strong currency exports suffer, but how does that lead to cheaper oil? And if the oil IS cheaper, then profits on it diminish so the Gulf states would suffer too.


The crunch that is happening now is nothing more than a long-overdue correction, which will see things settle down by the end of the year. Yes, there were will be job losses, house reposessions and rising costs, but no more than there should have been over the last five years, simply accumulated. Fortunately, Poland is nowhere fluid enough for any of this to really have an impact, as most people had absolutely nothing to start with.

Poland is obliged to join the Euro, and will do, with little economic harm other than a slight blip in consumer confidence as the old babcias struggle to comprehend the new denominations.
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Big_Cannon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richfilth wrote:
Big_Cannon wrote:

EU policy- with a strong euro exports suffer, oil comes cheaper and the profit goes back to Exxon (US) and the Gulf.


I don't understand a word of that. Sure, with a strong currency exports suffer, but how does that lead to cheaper oil? And if the oil IS cheaper, then profits on it diminish so the Gulf states would suffer too.


The crunch that is happening now is nothing more than a long-overdue correction, which will see things settle down by the end of the year. Yes, there were will be job losses, house reposessions and rising costs, but no more than there should have been over the last five years, simply accumulated. Fortunately, Poland is nowhere fluid enough for any of this to really have an impact, as most people had absolutely nothing to start with.


Oil is bought in dollars. 80% of the world trade is conducted in $$. OPEC and oil countries simply cut the output, and while the supplies are low, oil prices automatically go up. In the Gulf region inflation is on the rise due to the real estate boom but as long as the liter of gas maintains itself at 43 groszy those lucky us who get paid in petro$$ won't suffer. Nobody suffers in my neck of the woods.
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Richfilth



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil is not the be-all and end-all of the economy; a strong Euro will not be a problem for members within the Eurozone at all, as it is not so dependant on foreign imports (the whole idea of the eurozone is to ease trade with its member states, not from outside.)

Therefore, in a world where the Euro has more spending power against the crumbling dollar, in real terms the prices are dropping. Countries cant hike their dollar prices without causing massive inflation in their own economies so, as long as the banks here don't collapse, it's a win for Europe and a massive fail for the US.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Nobody suffers in my neck of the woods.


well, i wouldn't say nobody. you live in a country comprised of a few extremely wealthy people, and a bunch of dirt poor ones.

i guess nobody there will suffer right now.......but then again, the middle east is the shakiest, most volatile place in the world, making it completely unpredictable.

oil and bombs. bad mix. Wink
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