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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go to Hail with a dog. Recipe for disaster. You do not understand what you are letting yourself in for.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear MyTrunkshow,
I hope you can take Gogo with you. Some of my Saudi colleagues who lived in that apartment building with me fell in love with Chu Lai (my dog), and one of them, Faisal, used to come down just to play with him.
We have two dogs here now in Santa Fe: Tenzie, a ten-month old Lhasa Apso puppy and Phu Bai, a lord-knows-how-old (but probably about 12) chihuahua/terrier mix that we adopted from the shelter here. Having to part from one or both of them would be very, very tough.
Regards,
John


"Chu Lai"? "Phu Bai"? 'Nam, much? John we are sooo showing our age! I guess Dien Bien Phu would be too much of a mouthful!

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear NCTBA,
Yup, I'm a geezer. And while getting old ain't much fun, it surely beats the only other alternative that I'm aware of.
Dien Bien Phu only would have worked if I were French, but I might try Khe Sanh or Hue someday. ( however, the latter might cause some confusion; "Go, Hue would sound like "Go (a)Way.)
Chu Lai was my "home base" over there.
Tenzie is short for Tenzing Norgay, the Sherpa who guided Hillary up Everest:

"He was originally called "Namgyal Wangdi", but as a child his name was changed on the advice of the head lama and founder of the famous Rongbuk Monastery, Ngawang Tenzin Norbu. Tenzing Norgay translates as "Fortunate Defender of Dharma." His father, a yak herder, was Ghang La Mingma (d. 1949) and his mother was Dokmo Kinzom.

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John
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MyTrunkshow



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't go to Hail with a dog. Recipe for disaster. You do not understand what you are letting yourself in for.


Which is more the problem? Hail or the dog?



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mytrunkshow
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problems with dog
1. Getting the beast into KSA
2. Getting it from Port of Entry to Hail. How do you propose doing that ?
3. Keeping the dog in UoH housing.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could also be problematic during your holidays.
What will you do with the dog if you want to travel?

It may not be possible to find anyone to look after the dog as many teachers, I would suspect will leave during the vacation times.

Will you take the dog with you each time you travel?
It could be a stressful time for both you and the dog every time you want to travel. Not very pleasant for the animal.

What if the animal becomes sick? Is there a vet in Hail?
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MyTrunkshow



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It could also be problematic during your holidays.


..I had thought about this issue. Sad

Quote:
Problems with dog
1. Getting the beast into KSA
2. Getting it from Port of Entry to Hail. How do you propose doing that ?
3. Keeping the dog in UoH housing.
Crying or Very sad

.....OK, I got it.

My friend had an idea. My parents love pets. I might take him there this summer. I hope they agree.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Home country Reply with quote

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My parents love pets. I might take him there this summer. I hope they agree.


I suppose you could leave him with a dog lover in his homeland.

Just wondering, would pets feel dismayed if they were taken out of their home country? I mean, they'd see and smell alien people and other animals, the food wouldn't be the same and so on.

Of course, they'd feel comfortable when the owner's around, I guess.

Just some stray thoughts, MyTrunkshow. Nothing personal.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dog is a pack animal and if his new home treats him well and feeds him, that is usually all he needs for happiness. And nothing makes a dog happier than new smells... Laughing

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MyTrunkshow



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh...

Pets are treated dismally here in Taiwan. Large dogs are penned in small cages for their much of the day. The one that lived above me had difficulty turning around in the cage. There is a rampant problem here with the Chinese obtaining pets and then finding they were unprepared to take care of them. The dogs are then put on the streets un-spayed and unnuetered. It's a horrific problem here.

I am not a dog fanatic and this is my first dog but I now understand the value of dog ownership. At this moment, I can hear the strays barking outside. The expats here have formed several organizations but I/they can't use a towelette to hold back the flood of animals entering the streets as the political will doesn't exist to cure the problem.

Anyway, this will become an issue for me in the next few months as I've trained him from being an abandoned dog. He now gets me up at 6am each day. We play for 10 minutes and then he goes to pee. He hides my slippers each day and plays all kinds of games with me when I come home. He is super-well trained for the bathroom and follows commands well.

I've gotten totally off topic .....so I might as well continue...hah. Street dogs are so appreciative of love and food. Who would have thought?? The reasons are obvious but I'd certainly take in another street dog again after I'm settled.

My parents in Nova Scotia have several pets and have declined owing to their frequent trips away deer hunting and going to bowling tournaments!! I'll find him a home here. Neutral

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mytrunkshow
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MyTrunkshow wrote:
There is a rampant problem here with the Chinese obtaining pets and then finding they were unprepared to take care of them. The dogs are then put on the streets un-spayed and unnuetered. It's a horrific problem here.

Does animal society exist in China or not?

I have heard that in China, people raise certain types of dogs and slaughter them for their meat. Some Chinese eat dog meat in the winter to help to keep them warm, or to increase the positive energy in their body and to regulate the blood pressure!!!!
And it seems this type of dog meat is not accessible to any Chinese, is only for the rich ones and VIP!!!
It seems around 300,000 dogs are killed in China each year, much of the meat being processed into stew for export across China and Korea.
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Mia Xanthi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: doggone sad Reply with quote

Mytrunkshow, I am rather sad that you are giving up on bringing the dog. Sad Sounds like you've become rather attached. Maybe you shouldn't give up so quickly. Give it a while and see if you can get more information.

Getting the dog to Hail shouldn't be a problem if you have a good carrier. As far as vacations go, I am certain that you can find at least one dog-friendly guest worker here who will take excellent care of him for a price. As a matter of fact, if the price is right, some of the workers might just decide to quickly become dog-friendly. Finding a vet in Hail will probably be your biggest obstacle.

BTW, Johnslat always goes to such trouble to make sure he posts well-researched, factual information. 007 seems to go to equally extreme ends Sad to post exactly the opposite!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: This give me paws Reply with quote

Dear MyTrunkshow,

Here's a website that might help out a lot.


http://www.saudipaws.com/


Regards,
John

P.S. Thanks for the kind words, Mia Xanthi, but don't be too hard on 007; he just has often a tendency to be a bit, well, tangential.
By the way, does your username refer to this:

Xanthi (Greek: Ξάνθη) is a city in northern Greece, in the East Macedonia and Thrace periphery. It is the capital of Xanthi Prefecture. The city was formerly known as İske�e in Turkish, and Ksanti (Ксанти) or Skecha (Скеча) in Bulgarian.

P.P.S. By the way, if you love animals, as I do, please go to this site and click � it�s free.

Thank You � your click has been counted! You�ve given the value of .6 bowls of food to rescued animals. The ads below make The Animal Rescue Site possible.

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?site...
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too did not want to sound negative regarding you choosing to bring your dog with you; rather for you to consider the negatives and be better prepared.

I for one can understand the attachment to a pet, however you should try to consider what is best for the dog in the long haul.

Easy to say; not so easy to do.

I also do think if you are determined...most of the problems may be solved as they arise, but having said that it certainly won't be an easy ride...for you or the dog....literally!

It is a tough decision.
Good luck in what ever you decide to do.
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Mia Xanthi



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: not the city in greece Reply with quote

Johnslat, you are a delightful seeker of information! Actually, you are very close to the source of my username, but I didn't even know that a city by the name of Xanthi existed. Thanks for the websites. I'll check them out. Animal lovers in KSA need all the info we can get.
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