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Lasting the course -- or losing the plot in Saudi
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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

windstar wrote:
lmbeharry wrote:

Please clarify how Shari'a works if a child is left without one or both natural parents. (For instance if a man's wife passes on. Or if both parents suffer an accident.)


Normally, your wife's child is considered your child too. What i mean, your wife had a child before your marriage, now her child(ren), is your child too.


This helps a great deal. My wife is our daughter's natural mother. I legally adopted our daughter this past December. So, it appears that in law, our daughter is my legal child. The "natural father," well he bailed on my wife even before our daughter came. Mongolia has a lot of that going around. Our family has been together for over two years now.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmbeharry wrote:
This helps a great deal. My wife is our daughter's natural mother. I legally adopted our daughter this past December. So, it appears that in law, our daughter is my legal child.

Except in Muslim countries where she will not be considered your child and will not be covered by the benefits that your son will.

I know at least two couples personally who had this situation.

VS
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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
lmbeharry wrote:
This helps a great deal. My wife is our daughter's natural mother. I legally adopted our daughter this past December. So, it appears that in law, our daughter is my legal child.

Except in Muslim countries where she will not be considered your child and will not be covered by the benefits that your son will.

I know at least two couples personally who had this situation.

VS


Then the situation reverts to my default. I should be in position to personally pay for Oyushka's education. That is, unless a potential hiring university feels substantial value in my capability and efforts to produce for them, and the university makes an accommodation for this situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bihari
You are frying fish that are still in the sea. First get the job.
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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bihari
You are frying fish that are still in the sea. First get the job.


I can dream and not make dreams my master...

If, by Rudyard Kipling
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't do it
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desultude



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG!

I have just stumbled upon this thread (in a cafe in Istanbul).

I have taught in Korea (university, 3.5 years) and am now in Saudia, at a university.

Be ever so grateful for the grace and benevolence of Korea. I miss my job there every day I suffer through the hell that is Saudia Arabia.

Anyone on the Korea board will tell you that I am thoroughly a cultural relavist. But Saudia is beyond belief.

By comparison, Korea is egalitarian and the students are downright driven to excellence. Everything is relative.

Seriously, Saudia is an astounding place- able to suck the life out of the most devout relativist.

Sorry, but wine is truth serum- and, truth be told, unless you make your own, you will be living in a totally fictive reality. A reality of denial.

Okay, I am sitting in this marvelous cafe in Istanbul, contemplating my return to KSA with trepidation. Mierde!
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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
OMG!

I have just stumbled upon this thread (in a cafe in Istanbul).

I have taught in Korea (university, 3.5 years) and am now in Saudia, at a university.

Be ever so grateful for the grace and benevolence of Korea. I miss my job there every day I suffer through the hell that is Saudia Arabia.

Anyone on the Korea board will tell you that I am thoroughly a cultural relavist. But Saudia is beyond belief.

By comparison, Korea is egalitarian and the students are downright driven to excellence. Everything is relative.

Seriously, Saudia is an astounding place- able to suck the life out of the most devout relativist.

Sorry, but wine is truth serum- and, truth be told, unless you make your own, you will be living in a totally fictive reality. A reality of denial.

Okay, I am sitting in this marvelous cafe in Istanbul, contemplating my return to KSA with trepidation. Mierde!


You have been really helpful. And I think I'll drop my quest for work in KSA. I'll petition the British Uni in Cairo harder. Maybe Egypt is the place to be (maybe not this year, but next or the year after).

Actually, it'd be better to get into a Korean Uni. Better for the wife and daughter as the relatives would be a mere two hour flight away.

Anyway. Salud. How's Istanbul? I had always wanted to visit. Drink a glass of wine for me, would you. I'm quitting alcohol tomorrow (or actually I quit about seven hours ago). Gotta find a job here in UB Mongolia to feed the family. Gotta work out too. This unemployment is making me fat. I think I gained three kilos in the past three weeks.

I think your post on relativism and some of the other posts regarding money are informative. It seems that many people go to KSA to earn/save money. That is not my motive. I need to support the family, but I really desire to be in a constructive environment where I can contribute and grow a department and myself, to boot.

I wish you well. Enjoy Istanbul.
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lall



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Confession Reply with quote

Confession is good for the soul, eh?

Maybe the Catholics have something here, after all.

By the way, I'm a practicing Roman Catholic but must confess that I look for priests I don't know well, to fulfil my obligation. Rather a weak conviction on my part even though I get some consolation whenever I see the numerous posts on fora (not only on Dave's) where people bare their souls under the shroud of anonymity. Maybe if it were called "letting off steam", (as in the politically-correct world), there'd be more acceptance.

lmb, I guess you are not "hiding" under the shroud of anonymity. So, no offence meant, though creating an identity online doesn't need magic.

By the way (This is my second btw), if an anonymous poster posts something seeking comment (which means that s/he has acknowledged that such "that something" needs weighing, unless "that something" is wholly opinionated), do you suppose that
a) criticism and/or constructive suggestion could mean penance
b) and further, acknowledgement of similar actions by other posters could mean absolution?

Food for thought, do you think or am I about to be cut into ribbons, by the politically-correct brigade? Ha! I'm guilty of being PC by my references to and/or and s/he.

Good luck, lmb, in your attempt to lay off the amrut.

Regards,

Lall.


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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Confession Reply with quote

lall wrote:
Confession is good for the soul, eh?

Maybe the Catholics have something here, after all.

By the way, I'm a practicing Roman Catholic but must confess that I look for priests I don't know well, to fulfil my obligation. Rather a weak conviction on my part even though I get some consolation whenever I see the numerous posts on fora (not only on Dave's) where people bare their souls under the shroud of anonymity. Maybe if it were called "letting off steam", (as in the politically-correct world), there'd be more acceptance.

By the way (This is my second btw), if an anonymous poster posts something seeking comment (which means that s/he has acknowledged that such "that something" needs weighing, unless such comment is wholly opinionated), do you suppose that criticism and/or constructive suggestion would mean penance and further, acknowledgement of similar actions by other posters would mean absolution?

Food for thought, do you think or am I about to be cut into ribbons?

Good luck, lmb, on your attempt to lay off the nectar.

Regards,

Lall.



If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you... From the Gospel of Thomas saying 70 (Thomas 45:29-33 Gnostic Texts)

I think St. Augustine was the greatest "confessor" of all time.

Thanks for the "good luck" about the nectar - but I have a weird gift. I decide to drink for a while (and smoke cigarettes, too) and then I stop for a few months. In fact, these are the only two vices I permit myself. I posted above that when the baby came, I stopped, no problem. Circumstances provoked me to seek a crutch. I've had my catharsis and now it's time to move on. That's how I operate. If I had had the cash, I would have gone to the Mongolian countryside and climbed a mountain instead. But, sans cash to hire a ride, stuck in the apartment in the dreary city... I had a few, maybe four times a week, and smoked.

Anyway, time to move on now.

BTW, have you read the Gnostic texts? The Gospel of Mary Magdalene is worth a view...

Also, if you have interest in the evolution of Christianity, you may be interested in this PBS Frontline Production (ca. 1995): From Jesus to Christ-The First Christians (in 4 parts), but you need to view it a few times. The narrators and interviews (with theologians, archeologists, and biblical scholars) are wonderful, but the imagery is even moreso. They produced it to be viewed on many levels, so if you are familiar with esoteric Christian symbolism (i.e. IXTHUS) you will gain a lot more.

At PBS here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/

See ya Lall.

Lyndon

P.S. I checked at Isohunt. People are still seeding From Jesus to Christ:
Here: http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/15674961/from+jesus+to+christ?tab=summary
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/26005495/from+jesus+to+christ?tab=summary
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/15564365/from+jesus+to+christ?tab=summary
these are parts 1, 2, 4.

Looks like Part 3 drifted away. When I get to Korea, I'll seed it.


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lall



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Confession Reply with quote

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If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you... From the Gospel of Thomas saying 70 (Thomas 45:29-33 Gnostic Texts)

I think St. Augustine was the greatest "confessor" of all time.


Yeah, I guess! With his earlier record, he is, I suppose.

As an Indian Brahmin (whose ancestors debated the merits of Dwaitha and Adwaitha), it was easy for the early Missionaries of Christianity to introduce and later impose Adwaitha.

Anyway, before this thread (and forum) gets beyond the boundaries of the limits that it has set itself, suffice it said that you may like to take a serious look at Egypt. I liked Egypt during my stay there.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude:

You were SOOOO unready for Saudi!

NCTBA
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lmbeharry



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Confession Reply with quote

lall wrote:


Anyway, before this thread (and forum) gets beyond the boundaries of the limits that it has set itself, suffice it said that you may like to take a serious look at Egypt. I liked Egypt during my stay there.


Egypt may be quite interesting to our whole family. But I think we'll stop off in Korea for two years. I'm now hoping that one of the Korean Uni's will pick me up. Or the Air Force. If I work for the Air Force, officers might either help me get a Uni posting, or some consulting work with Korean corporations, either of which will be growing experiences for me and my family.

Signing off now, Lall. Have a great evening (morning, afternoon - whatever).

Take care.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Et tu Reply with quote

You too, lmb.

And you too, NCTBA.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A question for our "Bihari". You couldn't handle Korea. You couldn't handle Mongolia. What makes you think you could handle Saudi ?
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