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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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But that's a lot of water for over 50% of the year, and surely by letting the rain pour off the roof and soak into the ground, it's going to take a long time for that water to get back into the system. At leat by using a waterbutt, you distribute that water in a controlled way.
Admittedly, I'm not too hot on these ecology issues, I'm so not green, that I'm red. I was just thinking of the practical issues of not having gutters. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Phil,
As you may remember, I do have a rainwater catchment system. But it breaks my heart to see all the water just being dumped into the street and treated like waste that has become a problem then have to hear people suffer with lack of water the rest of the year.
This problem is not particular to Mexico, in many parts of the world we've come to think of rainwater as a problem, rather than a resource. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Phil_K wrote: |
But that's a lot of water for over 50% of the year, and surely by letting the rain pour off the roof and soak into the ground, it's going to take a long time for that water to get back into the system. At leat by using a waterbutt, you distribute that water in a controlled way. |
Actually, letting it soak into the ground is good; it is by this method that the aquifers get recharged (i.e. groundwater is replaced). What is bad is that so much city surface where the runoff pours onto is paved, and much rainwater ends up in the sewers. |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Where do UNAM people end up? They get the short shrift. |
I don't know about that, Alumni of the university include 5 mexican presidents, a president of Costa Rica and of Guatemala, a vice president of Bolivia, an American Senator, a couple of Nobel laureates, the richest man in the world, and Octavio Paz.
This is probably more of a reflection of these people as individuals, not the ability to get a job after graduating from a particular university. Most of them are probably light skinned, too. |
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mapache

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Why do Mexicans believe drinking cold drinks or eating ice cream is bad for you when you have a cold?
I have been doing this all my life but my Mexican doctor students react in horror when I tell them this and everyone in my Mexican family yells at me when I do it. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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mapache wrote: |
Why do Mexicans believe drinking cold drinks or eating ice cream is bad for you when you have a cold?
I have been doing this all my life but my Mexican doctor students react in horror when I tell them this and everyone in my Mexican family yells at me when I do it. |
I'm wondering about this too. I've been sick for almost two weeks now with a dreadful upper respiratory infection caused by, obviously, bacteria. Last night an adult student, an engineer no less, asked me, first of all, "why?" I'd gotten sick (which I found a bit odd), and then asked if I had drunk a very cold glass of water just before I got sick. And he was serious, too! |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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MikeySaid wrote: |
Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Where do UNAM people end up? They get the short shrift. |
I don't know about that, Alumni of the university include 5 mexican presidents, a president of Costa Rica and of Guatemala, a vice president of Bolivia, an American Senator, a couple of Nobel laureates, the richest man in the world, and Octavio Paz.
This is probably more of a reflection of these people as individuals, not the ability to get a job after graduating from a particular university. Most of them are probably light skinned, too. |
Light-skinned I'll agree, but can you show me something on Slim and other having earned a degree from UNAM? That surprises me.... |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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MO39 wrote: |
Last night an adult student, an engineer no less, asked me, first of all, "why?" I'd gotten sick (which I found a bit odd), and then asked if I had drunk a very cold glass of water just before I got sick. And he was serious, too! |
I've been asked this too. I think they often wrongly assume that we can't tolerate spicy food, no matter how many years we've been eating it, and live from one bout of the hershey squirts to the next.
Ironically you'll find a lot of Mexicans with gastritis and all sorts of other intolerances to spicy food.
Why do Mexicans feel the need to tell a room of relative strangers that they're coming back in a second? |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mapache, MO39, it's because the health construct in this culture is based on heat and cold. All maladies (illnesses, diseases, sore muscles, etc.) are caused by getting too hot or too cold. Every disesase and every remedy is associated with either heat or cold, and a "hot" disease is treated by applying a "cold" remedy and vice versa. The temperature of a remedy isn't always obvious to one who isn't acquainted with them; for example every herb used for medical treatment has either a "hot" or a "cold" quality. These beliefs have been around longer than modern Western medicine, and exist in parallel with it. |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Ironically you'll find a lot of Mexicans with gastritis and all sorts of other intolerances to spicy food.
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I had a couple of fourth graders who suffered from this. |
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MikeySaid

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 509 Location: Torreon, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Light-skinned I'll agree, but can you show me something on Slim and other having earned a degree from UNAM? That surprises me.... |
For starters with slim... http://www.carlosslim.com/biografia_ing.html |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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He completes his professional studies in civil engineering at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (known by its Spanish acronym UNAM), where he also taught Algebra and Linear Programming; he taught the latter while still studying, meaning he was simultaneously a student and professor. |
Ok, that was news to me. And the others?
I guess my point is a little more modern then. It's been my experience that UNAM folk get the shaft here in Mexico City. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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With UNAM is really depends on what you study. Some programs are world class others give out degrees to anyone who manages to stick it out.
In terms of Post Grad, most programs are well respected and well funded. Students come from all over Latin America to do post grads at UNAM.
The thing that gets me about the hot/cold this is that some foods are considered cold no matter what temp they are. Watermelon is considered cold so a lot of people believe you shouldn't eat it at night. I have found memories of sitting on my grandmother's porch eating watermelon and spitting seeds out into the dark of the night. |
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CharlieBaloney
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Ciudad de Mexico
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I always swallowed the (watermelon) seeds. I don't know why. Too lazy to spit, I guess. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: |
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CharlieBaloney wrote: |
I always swallowed the (watermelon) seeds. I don't know why. Too lazy to spit, I guess. |
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