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Surfdude18
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We're in Dalian. It's a brand new development and it cost 280,000 RMB, right near the qing gui che zhan in kaifaqu. It's 50m2 but seems bigger than that. It's now worth about 400,000. We bought it in 2006.
That was fully furnished, btw. We just need to buy a few bits and bobs like sofa, bed, desk, bookcase. |
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Surfdude18
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I'm quite impressed that you got somewhere by squatter's rights btw.
My brother's mates are squatting in this huge house in West Hampstead in London. It's about 7 bedrooms and detached. Got to be worth close to a million quid. But the owners are all missing. The council wants to get them out out can't because nobody is objecting. |
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arcueil_1
Joined: 10 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Ph.D |
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| At my last job (Qianhuang International College [Changzhou, Jiangsu]; SAM Program), there was a nice and highly professional Australian lady with a Ph.D. She was paid 7K kuai per month for 18 periods per week (plus quite a few unpaid "extra hours"). She was not being treated particularly well by the boss either... I was being paid what I consider a miserable 8K for about the same amount of work and I don't have a Ph.D. No wonder she left... Actually, the job per se was great and so were the students, so the money didn't matter too much. However, the boss was a complete lunatic with a serious anger management problem, so we all left when our contracts were up for renewal... |
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Tsuris
Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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Location: Wasting My Life Away in China
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Ph.D |
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| arcueil_1 wrote: |
| At my last job (Qianhuang International College [Changzhou, Jiangsu]; SAM Program), there was a nice and highly professional Australian lady with a Ph.D. She was paid 7K kuai per month for 18 periods per week (plus quite a few unpaid "extra hours"). She was not being treated particularly well by the boss either... |
This is pretty normal for mainland China. There really is no place for foreign PhDs in their system. Western faculty with PhDs will be treated just like every other foreign expert. There are a few key universities around that are given special funding to attract foreign faculty with a history of funded research and a long publication record, who might accept the position while on sabbatical. They pay well because the goal is to have their local faculty "collaborate" on publications, so it's a way for the Chinese faculty to publish in western journals even though they can't speak or write a word of English. For everyone else, there really aren't many opportunities.
There will always be some initial gratuitous talk about having a PhD teach an elective in his field, they will tell him how excellent he is, and then at the end of the day, he'll be offered 4,000 to teach 14 to 16 periods of oral English.
There are a few international schools around the mainland that might need a foreign PhD to teach their foreign students, mostly from India and Pakistan. The pay and workload are usually comparable to what a Chinese full professor would earn (8 to 12K for three 2-hour classes), but you certainly wouldn't be included in the medical or pension plan.
If you have a PhD and want to use it and get paid appropriately for the work, you'll need to go to either Macau or preferably Hong Kong, but the competition for these positions is fierce and you'll work your butt off putting in 40 hour weeks for the privilege. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Apartment ghosts ... |
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| Beyond1984 wrote: |
| Dude, my cute Chinese gf wants to know if you bought a new or second-hand apartment. She only wants to buy new, because what if someone died in there and the ghost hasn't left yet? |
that should be treated as an extra room-mate and charged accordingly. |
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Leon Purvis
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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Location: Nowhere Near Beijing
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Well, if ya listen to the guys arguing that a JD degree requires more rigorous study and training than a PhD, your pay scale should be about 4500Y.
Check out the discussion about JDs coming to China with no teaching experience. |
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smuvkat25
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: If you were in my shoes |
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| Wonderful Yunqi!! wrote: |
I agree with Anda's comments about the usual university deal in a smaller city. You can get by on 4 to 6k with housing. But, considering the fact that Anda stated that he/she has lived for 2 years on 4.5k, how can he/she claim that 12k + housing is needed in a big city? I assume he lived in BJ, SH, GZ or HK before.
I earn about 13k per month when you factor in my 1 hour a week job teaching a 3 year old boy. After taxes, 12k. After rent, utilities and transportation, 8k. After blowing a few kuai, 6k.
Life in Shanghai is nice.
Of course, I could earn more; I could also work more as well. |
Yunqi,
I'm a newb on this site. I'm looking to come to China to teach after my graduate school. I have zero experience, other than proctoring for tests and some sub teaching during my graduate assistantship. My degree will be a M.Ed in TESOL. I would really love to teach and live in Shanghai, but I need some advice about a few things. Some questions I have are:
1. I will have a $200 USD bill for my student loans. That is my only debt. when I'll come to China. Seeing as I'm quite frugal (and don't get off shopping/blowing my cash on material goods), will taking this $200 USD hit a month kill me in Shanghai?
2. If you could do it over again and you were in my shoes (single, 33 male no kids and student loan debt [$200 USD]), where would you teach in China? I'm not adverse to teaching children, but I would like to end up doing some uni work.
3. How much for a decent apartment in burbs of Shanghai? I'm looking for a modest, 1-bedroom apartment.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Nick |
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therock
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Ph.D |
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[quote="Tsuris"]
| arcueil_1 wrote: |
| There will always be some initial gratuitous talk about having a PhD teach an elective in his field, they will tell him how excellent he is, and then at the end of the day, he'll be offered 4,000 to teach 14 to 16 periods of oral English. |
At least he will be paid 500RMB more than someone who has a Masters Degree.  |
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flutterbayou
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Doctorals working for peanuts? |
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The lowest paying position I ever had in China was in excess of 16,000 RMB per month, with housing. There is no reason for anyone with an MA or above to accept anything less. I found that few people needed my JD degree in the classroom.
Some PhDs take a sabbatical in China and have no reason to care about money, but the joint venture organizations pay well enough to save close to 1500 dollars a month, which is hard to do back in the USA.
And this refers only to academic positions. There are many good jobs in the private sector in Shanghai and Beijing. |
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kungfucowboy83
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man if you have a phd or MA ed why in the world would you not work at a place that would acctually apreciate it? for the most part, the local college or language mills will be happy wether you are a phd in lingustics or a bachelors in basket making. There are plenty of international schools in china who would actually pay something akin to a real wage to people with higher degrees.
the only excption i can think of is if someone gets 4500 for 10 classes in haikou or kunming just to have a year long visa. |
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