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workingnomad
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Near Native? Increasing trend is adverts? |
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I keep seeing adverts for jobs, mainly in Asia, that states Native or near Native?
Many say they welcome applicants from Europe, Africa and the Philippines?!
Could this be the end of the necessity to be a native? Lets face it why pay a backpacker from Canada xx amount when you can pay a near native from the Phillies x amount?
I would imagine the massive demand from China has something to do with this.
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johnslat
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Dear workingnomad,
"Near-native speaker" - is that like being almost a virgin?
Regards,
John |
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workingnomad
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Dear John,
Probably.
regards,
WN |
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Thwartley
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With a global recession set to hit, you can bank on it.
Indians, Filipinos and others can be had at a far lower wage than native speakers. And, almost as important to language school owners in Asia, they are far more malleable.
They just have to sell it to the largely brain dead and pliable parents of the children. If it also means less payout for those parents, then that's as far as the discussion goes. Actually acquiring any language skills is almost a meaningless consideration in many learning situations in Asia.
It's simply part of the charade that makes up the chunks of time in between plugging their maws with food, gossiping and ripping each other off. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of students in Thailand, for example, have studied English for 10 plus years and are still at a pre-beginner level.
In many ways it's a perfect situation. Filipinos come from one of the most screwed up countries in the region. Their biggest export is people. If they can go to a slightly less screwed up hole of a nation, convince the corrupt grinning monkeys in charge that they are fit to teach English to their little half-wits, then more power to them. In 10 years, the level of English in Thailand will still be the lowest in the region.
The only difference is that Thais will be convinced the proper pronunciation of the number 11, is "eleben."  |
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workingnomad
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats bad news for all the amateur backpacking teachers. No way can they compete with the Indians! |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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They just have to sell it to the largely brain dead and pliable parents of the children. If it also means less payout for those parents, then that's as far as the discussion goes. Actually acquiring any language skills is almost a meaningless consideration in many learning situations in Asia. |
True, true!! I almost never get asked in an interview about teaching techniques. At a recent interview I was asked, 1. How much are you expecting to be paid? 2. Where do you work? 3. Do you like teaching?
As one can see, whether one can teach English or even knows basic English grammar is of little importance. |
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guangho
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Interview questions for moi:
"Do you like kimchi?"
"Can you play baseball?"
"What do you think of Korea? Korea good place, no?" |
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