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Culture and how not to teach it
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Culture and how not to teach it Reply with quote

These are excerpts from a recent Mike Guest column in the Daily Yomiuri in Japan entitled Playing 'culture card' to win points

He is very negative here giving 12 examples of how not to teach culture.

they are;

1) You can use culture as an excuse to exclude other people.

2) Culture is an acceptable way of stating your in-group's superiority.

3) Culture allows you to claim some universal human value as somehow belonging exclusively to your group.

4) Culture mean focusing on differences, espcially on rules and prohibitions.

5) Remember: Your people have personalities. other people have culture.

6) Claim that culture is implicit in absolutely everything that other people do.

7) You can use cultural reductionism to justify your prejudices, no matter what the cultural traits are.

Cool You can plausibily maintain anything you want to believe about a culture, no matter how unrealistic these claims may actually be.

9) Your culture equals, conveniently, whatever you happen to believe.

10) Culture can explain why people from other cultures dislike or don't understand you personally.

11) Culture can be a convenient way of avoiding justifications and explanations.

12) Claim that the cultures of foreign languages will infiltrate the speaker like a virus.

So how should we teach culture Cool ?
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Mike_2007



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So how should we teach culture?


Personally I don't think we should. We should teach English language. If we want to project a good impression of the culture we come from we can do it simply by acting responsibly and professionally.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 'teaching culture' is about communicating how culture influences language - both verbal and non-verbal. This doesn't imply that any specific culture is superior in any way to others - it's a matter of helping our language learners express themselves (in English contexts) in ways that confirm that they are educated, professional, and competent in English contexts.

I'm quick to catch cultural crossover behaviors (again, verbal or non-verbal) that make my learners appear less-than-professional or educated in an English language context. They've always appreciated this...

but I teach immigrants and professionals who work in international contexts, not students who just need to pass tests.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOme culture is important, like knowing how big people's personal space is or whether to shake hands or give air kisses. Especially if students are planning on going to live in another country, they'll have to understand culture.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently reading Context and Culture in Language Teaching which is a very interesting read.

Teaching culture is not teaching a lesson on Halloween or whatever.
Teaching culture is about explaining the difference between date and appointment.

You can not effectively teach a language without teaching it's companion culture.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think 'teaching culture' is about communicating how culture influences language - both verbal and non-verbal. This doesn't imply that any specific culture is superior in any way to others - it's a matter of helping our language learners express themselves (in English contexts) in ways that confirm that they are educated, professional, and competent in English contexts.


I definately agree with you. As noted from the Middle East forums, sometimes students only communicate with other nonnative speakers, so then which culture they need to know about is a slightly different one than the languge they are speaking or using as a lingua franca.

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SOme culture is important, like knowing how big people's personal space is or whether to shake hands or give air kisses. Especially if students are planning on going to live in another country, they'll have to understand culture.


I agree, that is why I was surprised when I got some heat from this forum and two others concerned with Japan for breaking a student's 'cultural bubble' during an English language lesson. In my case I don't think my student was planning to live abroad, but she already did attend international conferences outside of Japan and wanted to appear as a competent English speaker.

A little more background is necessary. The student was a dermatologist who was familiar with myself and my heat rash and humidity related problems that arise every summer in Japan. I had taught her several times over a a few years. Her level is high intermediate to early advanced.

The conversation went something like this;


Teacher: How's it going? It's muggy today, isn't it?

Student: Fine, but busy. Yes it it is very hot and humid.

Teacher: Yes, every summer my wife and I are so happy to escape this heat island. If I could, I'd like to miss summer in Japan every year.

Student: Then you should leave Japan!

Teacher: So.., my wife doesn't like the summers here in Japan either. Then she, who is Japanese should leave her country?

Student: Uh, uh..........?!


One Japanese speaker opined that 'people didn't comment about the weather like that in Japan' forgetting conveniently that this wasn't a conversation in Japanese nor was it completely a Japanese context. I like to think of languge lessons as training sessions. I expect my students to be aware of some cultural customs, at least the ones they are more likely to encounter.

Cases where they tell people to leave the country because those people don't like some seasons or the weather in that season in the country of the student will not duly impress the listener that the speaker is being flexible or realistic.

As I related earlier, people in the US and Europe often travel to another area to 'escape' weather in seasons they don't like. No one has asked them to 'move' abroad or turn in their passports yet Wink .
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anninhk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might not be asked such a question in England about the weather but there are certainly people who might ask you, if you come from a former colonial country or elsewhere, why you don't go back where you came from!
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Mike_2007



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Teaching culture is about explaining the difference between date and appointment.


Damn, and I always thought it was teaching vocabulary. My bad. Smile
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote