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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not necessarily whether degrees and qualifications make the teacher - one important point is that having them is often the only thing that can get you to the first step: interesting a DOS in your aplication.
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FuzzX



Joined: 14 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've worked in Brazil, Japan, Mexico and Korea with no degree. Don't need one and never plan to get one.
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Kootvela



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
FuzzX wrote:
I've worked in Brazil, Japan, Mexico and Korea with no degree. Don't need one and never plan to get one.

Let's hope they pass a law on work visas requiring a degree.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kootvela,
The problem is, what do you do with people who have gained years of experience without such a degree?

Also, work visas are one thing, but there are other visa types that permit people to work without degrees. Immigration guidelines on work permission cover one side of the fence, and it may be up to employers or a labor board within the country to dictate degree requirements. As we say in Japan, it's all case by case.
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Kootvela



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glenski wrote:
Kootvela,
The problem is, what do you do with people who have gained years of experience without such a degree?




Rehabilitate Very Happy
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jpvanderwerf2001



Joined: 02 Oct 2003
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Location: New York
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kootvela wrote:
Glenski wrote:
jpvanderwerf2001 wrote:
That being said, some of the best teachers I've worked with had no degree and some of the worst were qualified to the gills.
Sigh. Not that same old story again.


Totally agree.

MOD EDIT I have been teaching for nearly a decade, and done so in five countries. During that time, I have seen wonderful teachers who didn't have degrees and some terrible, pedantic teachers with DELTAS and Master's degrees. It happens.
If you had read the rest of my post, you would've seen that I recommended the OP get his/her degree anyway.
Degrees are great--I'm certainly glad I have mine--but do not determine whether or not one becomes an effective teacher.
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basiltherat



Joined: 04 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Glenski wrote:
Kootvela,
The problem is, what do you do with people who have gained years of experience without such a degree?





Rehabilitate


Employ them if you can ?
basil
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enter6382



Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Location: Montana
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can understand why you would need a degree if you were looking to make good money doing this. Honestly I don't know of I'm going back to school, because I'm making a good living now and I'm not looking to get rich. But I've always wanted to try this. I would even do it if I was barely getting by. Is it possible, where could I work, what certification would be best, and what are the actual chances of making it? I know some of you have said that there are people with no degree doing it. But I imagine that getting in with no degree ten years ago and getting in now are two entirely different things. Does anyone know someone who has done it recently? I appreciate all your posts and your time.
Thanks