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Saying "Phuck it" and heading out.....?
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you found a job within a week, $500 wouldn't go far. Let's say you live in a hostel while apartment-hunting for ten days. There goes $100. Now, you find a place and you need to pay a damage deposit and the first month's rent. There goes your last $400 (at least!). So, you weren't able to afford food, you didn't have money to take transit around looking for jobs, you couldn't buy sheets for your new bed, etc. And god help you if you can't find a furnished apartment!
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MO39



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jetgirly wrote:
And god help you if you can't find a furnished apartment!


That's right, because then not only would you have to buy what we think of in English as "furniture" but also appliances for the kitchen, a stove and a refrigerator.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOPS!

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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not forgetting another US$200 for your FM3 of course! Very Happy
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GueroPaz



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention folks who can live in a cave, but I would not consider coming to Mexico to start teaching, without several thousand US in my checking account. That is in addition to over US$2000 monthly pension. Caves have no refrigerators. Laughing
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MO39



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GueroPaz wrote:
Not to mention folks who can live in a cave, but I would not consider coming to Mexico to start teaching, without several thousand US in my checking account. That is in addition to over US$2000 monthly pension. Caves have no refrigerators. Laughing


I have to disagree. I don't live in a cave (though my apartment is quite small), and my monthly pension is less than half of yours. I came to Mexico City with around $1500 in my checking account and have managed quite nicely since then, supplementing my fixed income with some (not a lot of) teaching and occasional translating work. Maybe I live more frugally than most people but still manage to enjoy myself in this crazy/wonderful city!
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debmport



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the beach as well my friend.

There a several nice beaches within 3-5 hours from Guadalajara, including Puerto Vallarta. Not that it is the nicest, but touristy and there are jobs for americans/canadians/whatever selling time shares.

If you're not a sales oriented person, Gdl is good sized city with sufficient teaching opportunities. I found a job within a week. I have a BA in Spanish and no TEFL certification. I basically walked everywhere until I found something.

If you like the big big city, go to Mexico City.
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GueroPaz



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
GueroPaz wrote:
... I would not consider coming to Mexico to start teaching, without several thousand US in my checking account. That is in addition to over US$2000 monthly pension.


I have to disagree. I don't live in a cave (though my apartment is quite small), and my monthly pension is less than half of yours. I came to Mexico City with around $1500 in my checking account and have managed quite nicely since then, supplementing my fixed income with some (not a lot of) teaching and occasional translating work. Maybe I live more frugally than most people but still manage to enjoy myself in this crazy/wonderful city!
MO39, I agree with you. US$1500 in the bank, and a pension, is just fine. Not at all like just 500 dollars and no other income.
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tek44



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go back to Korea and save around 10,000 dollars and then go to Mexico.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in Mexico, I really suggest $3,000 US as a base. You could do it on less, BUT what if something goes wrong? Always hope for the best and plan for the worst.

There are so many "if's" about moving to another country. Even if it's close to home like Mexico is to the US and Canada and you have a job already, you need to have cash to see you through til payday (what happens if they don't pay you? Rare, but it happens).

Anybody coming to Mexico and looking for a job has to consider:

Airfare: You will need the amount for a one-way ticket home, possibly on short notice. Depending on where you live: $300-$1,000, possibly more if outside of North America.

Housing: At least two months of rent. Again this will depend on location and tastes. Factor in around $400-$600 or so.

Food: If you eat out (Which most people do, especially if you have just moved here) budget about $7-$10 per day.

Transportation: Pretty cheap, if you take buses and subways. the occasional taxi will bump this up a bit. Plan on about $3.00-$8.00 per day.

Entertainment: You want to have fun don't you? $25-$50 per week (possibly more)

Misc expenses: Everything else, like internet cafe $1.00-$2.00 per hour, phone calls home $.50 per minute from a TELMEX pay phone, cell phone starts at about $400 pesos plus whatever you spend on airtime, etc.

Total: $2,000 - $4,000 give or take

A lot depends on your lifestyle and how you live while in Mexico. Everything is not cheaper in Mexico. Many things are more expensive.
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NorthofAmerica



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great forum, lots of helpful comments!

I am in a bind, I am back in Canada at the end of October for some family stuff and then my sister is getting married in the Dominican Republic at the end of March. Realistically I can't head to China (my next plan) or come back to Japan during that time so the bright idea has dawned on me... spend the break in Mexico.

I am also looking at saying "phuck it" and heading there. Someone earlier mentioned being prepared to work on a tourist visa, is this legit at all?

Could I apply for the FM3 and then teach while I wait for it knowing full well that I'll be gone in a few months anyway?

Landing with a one way ticket... No problem, No way, or somewhere in between?

If I am only gonna stay 3-4 months could I not just find a hostel/flophouse and not worry about a furnished apartment?

I'd figure on showing up with $1000+ and I have debt free credit cards for emergencies. Did it with a bit more in Japan and it worked out (and here is waaaayyy more expensive I am guessing)

Not trying to hijack this thread but rather flesh out some of the info I've seen.

Thanks!
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MO39



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NorthofAmerica wrote:


I am also looking at saying "phuck it" and heading there. Someone earlier mentioned being prepared to work on a tourist visa, is this legit at all?

Could I apply for the FM3 and then teach while I wait for it knowing full well that I'll be gone in a few months anyway?



It's not legal to work here on a tourist visa, but there are schools that will hire you on that basis.

Don't even think about applying for an FM3 if you're only planning to stay for a few months. It could take a couple of months (or longer) to get it once you apply, and you must be sponsored by a school or ask for "independiente" status. Also, it costs 2348 pesos for all the government fees if you do it on your own; using a lawyer could add around 4000 pesos to that amount. It's really only appropriate if you're planning to stay for at least a year.


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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could I apply for the FM3 and then teach while I wait for it knowing full well that I'll be gone in a few months anyway?

Landing with a one way ticket... No problem, No way, or somewhere in between?


I'll second MO's opinion. It's fairly common to find people working on a mere tourist visa in Mexico City and some other places, but you should know there is a risk of deportation and fines if you are caught. If you plan to work this way, also be very careful about where in Mexico you work. I'm sure others posters will pipe in here about how vigilant immigration can be in their particular districts.

It's usually fine to come in on a one-way ticket. Some people have reported problems trying this, but it seems to be an airline policy for some US carriers and not a Mexican government policy.
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leslie



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bye

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notamiss



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding working on a tourist visa, see this thread http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=64253. Summary: It's illegal, some people do it; most of them are ok, but a few get caught and expelled and/or fined.

Note, however, that past experience may not be the best guide to the future. See http://mexfiles.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/another-excuse-out-the-window/ for one man's opinion:
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Ironically, there may be more prosecutions of gringo illegals as a result of the reforms. A lot of people work who are on tourist visas [...], or have residency permits, but not a work visa. I get the feeling Immigration generally ignored these people just because it was a hassle to arrest and charge them. Since it�s only a fine now, I expect there will be more prosecutions.
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