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matador

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 281
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: Why are flights in Japan so expensive... |
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...dont people complain? I moved to Hong Kong last year from Japan. Flights in this area to Bali, Vietnam, Malaysia, etc are very cheap.
My flight from Osaka to Tokyo is more than my flight from HK to Osaka!
Does the fabled Japanese customer service account for the price difference...? |
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azarashi sushi

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 562 Location: Shinjuku
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Just curious... How much exactly did you pay? |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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There's this thing called economics it explains alot about things like money and prices and such.
Now one of the first things you learn in economics is the law of supply and demand it says that prices are determined by the ... of supply and demand. In a nutshell, if people are happy to pay (demand) a price then then that is what the price will be. Pretty simple really. |
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Nabby Adams
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 215
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Markle you're forgetting that there are also such things as imperfect markets which the airline business is in Japan. Prices are much higher here because the industry hasn't been deregualted like it has in the US or Europe. Airlines here can't just fly where they want. This artificially reduces the supply or rather the competition which keeps prices higher. |
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Dipso
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 194 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that Hong Kong is much more of a regional hub for airlines than either Kansai or Narita. When I lived in HK there were several direct flight options available to me when I wanted to fly home to Britain. I could pick and choose according to my needs. When I lived in Japan there was only one direct flight from Osaka to London - and my, was it expensive! And as for wait lists...
It was also considerably easier to book flights online from HK, which can also lower the price.
*Dipso, flying via Seoul* |
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originaloli
Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Little Lisbon, London
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Could it be because the Japanese have a truly world-class rail network set up? Why on earth would you want to fly, need to fly or deserve to fly over such a short distance? |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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If you are talking about domestic flights, that kind of thing is not limited to Japan. In New Zealand, due to a lack of competition, it is usually cheaper to fly to Australia or Fiji than it is to fly from the North Island to the South Island.
Flights from Osaka to Tokyo wouldn't be that popular as most people here would take the shinkansen, hence lack of complaints about prices. For places that people do fly, like Okinawa, you can get some really reasonable flight and hotel packages.
As for international flights, I don't find it that expensive, or I didn't until they started whacking those enormous fuel surcharges on top, but that's happened everywhere. |
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azarashi sushi

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 562 Location: Shinjuku
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I've actually always found the opposite. Whenever I've traveled within Japan, the flight/hotel packages have always been very cheap... At least compared to taking the train. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Ah, true. But it's the packages that are cheap, like the ones to Okinawa that I mentioned. If you are just after a flight, it can be expensive. Still not that bad though. |
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khusam
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 16 Location: Oppama
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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I've only taken one internal flight (Haneda-Hiroshima) and it was cheaper than the shinkansen. I booked pretty far in advance, though. The bus into town was included in the price.
If you want to cry about internal airfare prices, try getting around in BC. My mom just paid 800 bucks for a Terrace-Kamloops flight. |
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flyer
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 539 Location: Sapporo Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how much you paid and how much is expensive for you,
but I book my flights on-line (through JAL) and if I book early I get flights for just over 12,000 (Sapporo - Tokyo)
which is not too bad for Japan and considering it is all so simple I am very happy |
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Pilot82

Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 150
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, well I wonder if Flights from China to Japan are chaep. I will be in Xi'an City but will go to Japan. |
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