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JZer
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| I've never heard of English teaching in ANY of those places except North Korea and that was on tefl.com , but there are probably international schools in all of the above places. |
I doubt you could make much money in North Korea. The average person earns like 100 US a year. Who would pay you besides the government? |
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| On top of that you could even eat every meal out on 500,000Won a month. |
Who's paying the rent?! |
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Justin Trullinger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Who's paying the rent?! |
Your employer. The majority of jobs I've seen advertised in Korea provide accomodation.
I think in most countries the "don't drink your takehome pay" is a good rule to increase savings.
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Who's paying the rent?!
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| Your employer. The majority of jobs I've seen advertised in Korea provide accomodation. |
Often the case but far from always.
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| I think in most countries the "don't drink your takehome pay" is a good rule to increase savings. |
Hmmm, horses for courses, and all that. IMO going out and mingling with the locals - and that includes bars and restaurants etc. - is one of the best ways of connecting with a culture and giving something back to the local community.
I spent a couple of years in Korea and there are a lot of diehard savers there - many of them Canadians for reasons unknown to me. Dedicated scrimpers may not get to see or do much, but they sure save some shekels. |
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william wallace
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| During ESL/EFL Golden Years (80's to early 90's) this was a good question, but I think the table's turned: What country has a more livable wage ? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm, horses for courses, and all that. IMO going out and mingling with the locals - and that includes bars and restaurants etc. - is one of the best ways of connecting with a culture and giving something back to the local community. |
Well get a private or a job with overtime. Then you can go out with locals and still save $2000US a month. Unless you want to drink yourself under the table every night, I am not sure how a single person could spend more than a million a month in Korea? |
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| I am not sure how a single person could spend more than a million a month in Korea? |
Believe me, it can be done! When I lived in Cholla (south west Korea) the missus and I used to jet up to Seoul and have great fun living it up, occasionally staying at the Grand Hyatt Seoul and other top hotels. I still saved a decent amount of money over a couple of years - can't recall exactly but around 12,000US I think. Korea really was a great time. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Believe me, it can be done! When I lived in Cholla (south west Korea) the missus and I used to jet up to Seoul and have great fun living it up, occasionally staying at the Grand Hyatt Seoul and other top hotels. |
Well having a wife is a different story!!! Furthermore, I know where Choll nam do is. The funny thing is I actually spoke Korean today in Vietnam. I met a Korean businessman and became friends with him. |
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Well having a wife is a different story!!! Furthermore, I know where Choll nam do is. The funny thing is I actually spoke Korean today in Vietnam. I met a Korean businessman and became friends with him. |
Ah, but she wasn't my wife then - we met there (she's from US) and was on the same teaching prog as me (EPIK) - so we used to split costs (and still do). She is hopeless at saving - came away from Korea completely empty handed. Hope you enjoyed yourself with the Korean in Vietnam. Did he try and buy you a drink? |
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moneyoriented
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| Ah, but she wasn't my wife then - we met there (she's from US) and was on the same teaching prog as me (EPIK) - so we used to split costs (and still do). She is hopeless at saving - came away from Korea completely empty handed. Hope you enjoyed yourself with the Korean in Vietnam. Did he try and buy you a drink? |
I'm guessing your girlfriend/wife was not of Asian heritage? I don't know - I'm just guessing the locals wouldn't have allowed you to have so much fun if you were a white guy/Asian girl couple... |
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Marcoregano
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| I'm guessing your girlfriend/wife was not of Asian heritage? I don't know - I'm just guessing the locals wouldn't have allowed you to have so much fun if you were a white guy/Asian girl couple... |
You're right up to a point - she's Spanish-American, not of Asian descent. But I don't think the locals would have stopped us having fun if she had been Asian. If she had been Korean then yes it would have been different. But, I agree that we wouldn't have had quite the same kind of time if she had been Asian - from what I've seen, Asian girls generally don't party quite like westerners. I realise I might take a few hits for saying that, but I do think it's generally true. |
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moneyoriented
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I see - yeah, that's generally true, although Asian-Americans, of course, get down better than the natives, but whatever.
But my thinking was that a lot of Koreans really hate to see a white guy with an Asian girl and will try to make trouble for you, by giving you dirty looks, calling her a *beep*, refusing you entry to a club, etc. (similar to Mainland China, and Vietnam too, I hear). |
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Marcoregano
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: |
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I see - yeah, that's generally true, although Asian-Americans, of course, get down better than the natives, but whatever.
But my thinking was that a lot of Koreans really hate to see a white guy with an Asian girl and will try to make trouble for you, by giving you dirty looks, calling her a *beep*, refusing you entry to a club, etc. (similar to Mainland China, and Vietnam too, I hear). |
Is that true about Asian Americans? Interesting - not something I was aware of. I wonder how that comes about? Now you mention it, when I think back to some of the Asian-Americans I've met, they can be quite funky.
I know that Korean men hate seeing Korean women with white guys, but I was never aware of an aversion to white guys with other Asian women. Maybe they sometimes just assume she's Korean. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| I know that Korean men hate seeing Korean women with white guys, but I was never aware of an aversion to white guys with other Asian women. Maybe they sometimes just assume she's Korean. |
I doubt that Koreans care if a white man is with a Filipino. But one Taiwanese woman told me she lived in Korea with her white husband and someone threw stones at them even though she was not Korean. |
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Gringo Greg
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You can live on 300k won per once you got your utilities covered and you could save a bundle.
If your debts aren't student loans then you might be better off skipping out on them. Either file bankruptcy on them before you leave or just stopping paying them. 7 years later and they are off your credit report. |
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