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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
The current penalty for overstaying the 90-day tourist limit (for North Americans and Aussies) in the EU is a 5-year ban on re-entering the Schengen zone. I don't kinow for certain if there is any monetary fine involved, but I don't think so.


So you can only stay 90 days in the WHOLE EU? What about backpackers who backpackfor six months? Or is it 90 days PER country?


From what I've read on this forum (and elsewhere), the 90 days is for the entire EU.
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Mike_2007



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sure it's going to be illegal to live off cash private lessons whilst staying on a tourist visa anywhere in the world, so the real question should be 'which countries allow me to stay indefinitely as a tourist with minimum hassle?'
This type of question just begs for trouble! Why would you even contemplate doing something illegal like this?


I wouldn't personally contemplate it... I got Turkish residence automatically, being married to a Turk, and in Romania I have residence rights because I'm an EU citizen and have my primary residence here. Before they joined the EU I had a permit because of my work here.

My question was put in inverted commas because I was trying to suggest a way for the OP to rephrase his question to get more useful answers, as it appears he'd like to work on a tourist visa. The 'me' in the questions wasn't me.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
The current penalty for overstaying the 90-day tourist limit (for North Americans and Aussies) in the EU is a 5-year ban on re-entering the Schengen zone. I don't kinow for certain if there is any monetary fine involved, but I don't think so.


So you can only stay 90 days in the WHOLE EU? What about backpackers who backpackfor six months? Or is it 90 days PER country?


From what I've read on this forum (and elsewhere), the 90 days is for the entire EU.


BUt is it 90 days in a year? Or can you simply border hop and get another 90 days once you re enter? I can't believe that people are limited to 90 days to see ALL of the EU!
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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
MO39 wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
The current penalty for overstaying the 90-day tourist limit (for North Americans and Aussies) in the EU is a 5-year ban on re-entering the Schengen zone. I don't kinow for certain if there is any monetary fine involved, but I don't think so.


So you can only stay 90 days in the WHOLE EU? What about backpackers who backpackfor six months? Or is it 90 days PER country?


From what I've read on this forum (and elsewhere), the 90 days is for the entire EU.


BUt is it 90 days in a year? Or can you simply border hop and get another 90 days once you re enter? I can't believe that people are limited to 90 days to see ALL of the EU!


It does seem harsh, but I believe the 90-day limit is for an entire year! Sad
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GregX999



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the OP. I'd much rather be able to work legally if possible, but I know there are countries where you can renew your tourist visa indefinitely (every 90 days or whatever) and that seem to not care. So yes, another way to put my original question would be "which countries allow me to stay indefinitely as a tourist with minimum hassle?" as Mike_2007 said.

But not just that... also which countries could one make a decent amount of money teaching 100% private lessons (legally or otherwise). I assume any EU country or any country with a medium to high standard of living (Japan, Korea, Argentina. I guess Turkey from what keitepai said.)

The EU only allows tourists to stay 90 days in the ENTIRE EU, then you have to leave for 90 days before you can enter again. (So 90 days out of every 180) So that's pretty much out for me unless I can get a residence permit somehow.

I could actually get Lithuanian citizenship (and thus an EU passport) because of my ancestry, but I'd have to give up my US citizenship to do it - Lithuanian law.

If you ask me, I think ALL countries should let anyone get a residence permit as long as they have no criminal record, have a means to support themselves and aren't carrying any crazy diseases. But I know that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Greg
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Gowump



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are caught working illegally in Poland you will be deported. The penalty is you can't return for 3 years if you pay for the plane ticket or 5 years if the government pays. Not to mention you will have to spend some time in deportation prison as long as it takes for your embassy to sort things out. And you are treated as a criminal, handcuffed as you walk through the airport, held in a cell at the airport, the whole nine yards. So the choice is yours. (All true a colleague of mine went through it 2-3 years ago, so Poland was an EU member)
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes, you're right about the visa ting http://www.schengenvisa.cc/ I'm just waiting for my citizenship to go through.
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FuzzX



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One guy I know does a split Brazil/Argentina run every 6 months. He teaches privately in Brazil then when his 6 months are up he goes over to Argentina and teaches 6 months there... He is doing pretty well at that.
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GregX999



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FuzzX wrote:
One guy I know does a split Brazil/Argentina run every 6 months.


Wow, that exact plan crossed my mind as well, but does he need to find new students every time he moves? Does he go to the same two cities/towns or a different one each time?

Greg
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Kootvela



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregX999 wrote:


I could actually get Lithuanian citizenship (and thus an EU passport) because of my ancestry, but I'd have to give up my US citizenship to do it - Lithuanian law.



That might change soon, so you might be lucky Smile
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GregX999



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kootvela wrote:
GregX999 wrote:


I could actually get Lithuanian citizenship (and thus an EU passport) because of my ancestry, but I'd have to give up my US citizenship to do it - Lithuanian law.



That might change soon, so you might be lucky Smile


I've been following the developments there too... I have my fingers crossed. Smile

Greg
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