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freakyaye
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: where are the jobs for october/november? |
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Hi everyone, i need a little guidence here, i just finished my celta and am looking for jobs in China, but it seems they all want people who can start in september! From what ive been reading here it would be almost impossible to get a visa for sept so i am aiming at october/november but i don't know where to look for jobs with these start dates! at the china job board there are a bajillion jobs but they all have sept start dates! Is there anywhere else I can look?
Thanks, Joel |
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Orrin
Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 206 Location: Zhuhai, China
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried TEFL.com? |
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Song&Dance

Joined: 04 Jul 2008 Posts: 176
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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There is still someone who does not know about Google? |
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Is there a reason why you can't start in September? I would strongly recommend you apply for one of the positions that start in September. If the school couldn't get you a visa why are they paying Dave's to advertise????? |
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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SAFEA licensed schools should have no problem providing you a visa for September.
Just be very sure you have a Z visa in hand before departure or things could become unpleasant.
Best of luck and hope to see you soon! |
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Anda

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: Um |
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Most universities plus the public school system start the school year around the first of September. If you have the required paperwork then it shouldn't be a problem. |
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letchluther
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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http://Google.com
Type: " Teach English in China" |
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Moon Over Parma

Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 819
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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If you are only looking for university work: very few schools hire after the start of a semester and the relatively few who do are usually schools that couldn't offer anything of value for a teacher during peak season, are often located in undesirable locations, the FT they hired pulled a runner, or they were incompetent. It's a bad sign, generally speaking. Exceptions exist but are rare. Most of those unis are bad news.
The summer hiring period starts as early as May and can go well into the end of August for an August/September start. If you want to come in November I'd suggest waiting one or two months after that point. The spring hiring window opens around October and goes well into January (sometimes February) since the university Spring semester tends to start in February and March. The hiring pool is substantially smaller, since Universities like to hire by academic year (which starts in August/September). Still, there will be many schools who lost/fired/couldn't get FTs for the fall and they do hire mid-year. Some still ask for a year contract (Speaking from experience: I'd consider it a bad move since the number of lucrative opportunities greatly increases during the summer hiring periods) but I'd suggest bargaining for a six month contract. If you like the school and they like you it would be easy to renegotiate a contract for full academic year based upon your semester of service. It would also give you bargaining power because you will have more options.
If you are looking for university work exclusively and cannot get ducks in a row at this time but have time on your hands I'd recommend waiting until next year, or, if you want to come sooner rather than later: start looking for work in November, December and January and get a six month contract with a school that hires mid-year.
If you are willing to work in the unpleasant world of the buxiban system then there are job offers year 'round. It's a bit like playing Russian roulette and the best of luck to you. Some people find good work in that sector, but it is a craps shoot. |
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Song&Dance

Joined: 04 Jul 2008 Posts: 176
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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There are two possible answers to the OP's question.
Either the October and November jobs are to be found back in September; or they are in the private language mills that have a revolving door for teachers and students. |
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grwit

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 329 Location: Dagobah
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Many of the English training centers here in Suzhou hire teachers all year round. There is no semesters in the training centers and they pay better but you have to work longer.
Check out WEB English, or English First |
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Zinger

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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letchluther wrote: |
http://Google.com
Type: " Teach English in China" |
Song&Dance wrote: |
There is still someone who does not know about Google? |
Come on fellas, not only are these responses unhelpful, they totally throw off the search results.
If I search for information on this forum, I get a set of results. If see that one of these doesn't have a reply, i don't bother clicking on it. However i've found that a lot of time I end up clicking on a search result only to find some smartarse saying 'havent you heard of google' - not helpful and a waste of time.
As for the question itself, schools need teachers, why not contact them and ask if its possible to start later, i'm sure you'll find one who is willing to be flexible. |
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arioch36
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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If you can start the first of October, you can get jobs at unis. All college freshman start their classes after the national holiday, the first four weeks is "military training" So many schools are happy to pocket the extra month and hire you to start in October. Don't wait until October to apply though. Obviously the worse the school (overall), the more likely they will do this. The best schools want everything in place to start the school year. The vast majority of schools are in the middle, and often still need a teacher
Language schools are available on a constant basis |
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eddy-cool
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1008
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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This time arioch's reply was the most helpful. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 419
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: See Below |
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arioch36 wrote: |
If you can start the first of October, you can get jobs at unis. All college freshman start their classes after the national holiday, the first four weeks is "military training" So many schools are happy to pocket the extra month and hire you to start in October. Don't wait until October to apply though. Obviously the worse the school (overall), the more likely they will do this. The best schools want everything in place to start the school year. The vast majority of schools are in the middle, and often still need a teacher
Language schools are available on a constant basis |
This is extremely accurate information, particularly the bit about the worse the schools, et.c, etc. Just remember, however, if you end up in this kind of a school, it will be all downhill from there. |
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