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MBA vs. MA TESOL

 
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MikeySaid



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
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Location: Torreon, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: MBA vs. MA TESOL Reply with quote

I suppose I could do both... but I really wasn't a very good student the first time around. I don't think I'm a bad teacher (especially now that I'm teaching adults and English... not 6th grade to brats)... but my long term goal is to have my own language/culture center (and the location is already picked out).

I don't have much business knowledge, and while some people think it's easy... I wasn't raised around business so it seems daunting to me. As for the language thing... I think expertise is necessary if I'm going to run a program and own one.

I'm just throwing this out there, what should come first in your opinion? Or... are there any "be a language/culture center director and owner" master's program?
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grad school (Monterey Institute of International Studies) offered a certificate in Language Program Administration--at least that's what I think that LPA stands for. You could easily do the MA and the certificate in two years (not sure how business-y the courses are, though they do prepare you for supervising teachers). There's also an MBA program that specializes in international business.

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MikeySaid



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should mention that I'm not rich and don't want to go to debtor's prison. MIIS is too expensive for me. Especially if I need to live in Monterey. I've done that, and it's not cheap.
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Interesting Call Reply with quote

Perhaps you need to think whether your focus is "language training" or business. If language training is your passion then go with the MA. If your goal is to be your own boss, hedge your bets for a generalised career in business or branch out into more consulting and content training areas then the MBA would seem to make more sense.
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MikeySaid



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i want to be qualified to run a program, not just be the guy with the capital. And beyond that, i'd probably be the first teacher on staff at any school I start.

The other thing is that I don't just want to teach English, I want to be able to teach Spanish and bring high school and college kids down ffrom the US and other countries so they can learn Spanish on vacation by the beach while training for their next soccer or baseball season... (a stretch, i know). pipe dream? maybe.
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Marcoregano



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, an MBA will tell you very little about how to run a language school, and there will be a heap of beep you probably won't want to learn about. The best way of learning about business is doing it.

I'd do the MA and read up on the nuts and bolts of business start-ups whilst your at it - and I imagine there must be some literature on starting a language school out there somewhere too.
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denise



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeySaid wrote:
I should mention that I'm not rich and don't want to go to debtor's prison. MIIS is too expensive for me. Especially if I need to live in Monterey. I've done that, and it's not cheap.


I think somewhere in the back of my brain I knew that you were familiar with & had lived in Monterey... sorry for the redundancy!

Yeah, the thought of being in debt until I'm 97 is not very pleasant. Shocked

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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aston University in Birmingham, UK, offers a certificate in Educational Management in TESOL, or you can do their MSc with an emphasis in Educational management. There's some sort of a cooperative effort, where part of this course is offered through international house London...


Best,
justin


PS- A good program imo, but a lot cheaper than MIIS. I guess a lot of things are, though.
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jillford64



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The other thing is that I don't just want to teach English, I want to be able to teach Spanish and bring high school and college kids down ffrom the US and other countries so they can learn Spanish on vacation by the beach while training for their next soccer or baseball season... (a stretch, i know). pipe dream? maybe.


I don't think this is a pipe dream. The school where I worked in Morelia, Michoac�n (Instituto Baden-Powell; they do have a website) was successful at running both an English and Spanish program. When the English program slowed down in summer while the Mexican university students were on vacation, the Spanish program picked up with students from the US, Canada, Europe, who were also on school vacation. They also hosted larger groups from high schools/colleges during other times of the year. I think it took a long time to build up to this though and getting Spanish teachers to work during Semana Santa and during the winter break between Christmas and January 6 was a problem.
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DrVanNostrand



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An MBA is a hell of a lot more valuable and useful than an MA TESOL.

If I were going to invest time and money into either, it'd be the MBA. That way, if the business fails, you're actually qualified to do something other than TESOL for the rest of your life.
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