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[wulfrun]

hi, new to the board. standard newbie questions, like:

where are the best-paying jobs in china? universities, private schools, corporate? places like New Oriental, EF, Wall Street English, ... ?

what would you say are the most satisfying jobs in china?

im looking through old threads, since i know this stuff has all been discussed before - but if anyone wants to quickly bring me up to speed, thanks.

i've done a little over a year of low-paid (4000-5000) work which i've loved, at two universities. thinking about doing another year at one of the famous unis in beijing, teaching a content course im passionate about. but also thinking about doing something better-paid. of course i have the usual qualms about "not wanting to rip anybody off"...

seen some jobs for about 10,000/month teaching these 'foundation' courses, rich kids doing a year of study at a big university here before starting a degree in the west. not sure if these are among the relatively best-paid jobs?

thanks

[Surfdude18]

The best paid teaching jobs are for teachers with QTS in their own country. They pay 25,000 a month and up.

however, there are TEFL jobs to be had which pay that kind of money - teaching EAP. Obviously this will need probably a TEFL Diploma and lots of experience.

[samhouston]

[wulfrun]

[smuvkat25]

[wulfrun]

dig this old thread up again...

i've a friend, 22 years old, just graduated from cambridge university, one year's teaching experience in the UK and italy (summers), with online TEFL qualification. he's talking to English First about working in Shanghai (14,000 rmb/month), and is thinking about other places. i know these speculative messages don't get much response (other than a few wisecracks...), but if anyone's working at or knows of a nice school in their city with vacancies, let us know please. (most of my experience is with the low-paying, inefficient, 10-hrs-teaching-a-week universities.)

what do you think are the best places to go to for challenge and reward? he's attracted by the professional development at EF, has also looked at British Council. other franchises - Wall Street, New Oriental, ...?

xiexie nimen.

[wulfrun]

[Anda]

Um, you can get caught if you are not careful if you just take notice of wages only. Like here is one for 12,000 of recent: Um didn't link how I wanted it but take this for 8 to 10 thousand RMB a month. Here you would need to prepare for 15 hours of teaching with the same students at a high level. You think that is easy? Remember you don't get paid for preparing.

Native English Speaker, university degree holder and teaching experience is preferred, living in shanghai China now is preferred.

Nationality: USA, UK, Canadian, Australian and etc.
Vacancy: full-time/part time Teacher (2 days at least as the part time)
Contract Duration: one year or longer
Starting date: ASAP
Working Load: 10 classes per week (1.5hr/class)
Working time: Monday-Friday (15:00-20:30)
Training time: 17:30-18:55; 19:05-20:30


Monthly salary (RMB) and Benefits: Negotiation


The thing is how many hours, who pays for accommodation, what holidays get paid for. How many lessons do you need to prepare for.

So a public school that pays for all the holidays and lets you do side work might be a lot better overall. Like if you can make good money in the holidays and you are already getting paid for them it adds up.

During the last year a lot of the better paying jobs have gone due to the economy slowdown.

[wulfrun]

thanks anda, you're perennially helpful.

naturally im taking the extras into account. still, 14,000 from ef for 30 hours teaching is better than 8,000 plus apartment from a university for 30 hours teaching.

taking it all into account, which are some of the better places? im not prioritising salary - opportunities for professional development, general efficiency, having a good structure and resources around you are all important.

ive worked at one of the top unis in beijing, where you have great freedom and amazing students, but they dont offer any training courses to teachers, there are few meetings, limited resources, there's no ladder (and generally no hope) of getting promoted within the department. the financial package (salary, hours, apartment, extras) isn't particularly good either, and i take that as a reflection of the general professionalism of the place.

[wulfrun]

[Anda]

I was seeing business English jobs for 30,000 RMB a month a year ago. I'm not seeing those types of offers now. However many are not stating wages and say they are open to negotiation.

[TexasHighway]

wulfrun said:

[eslstudies]