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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I couldn't attend the march on October 2, in commemoration of the dark days of 1968. If I had, would I have been endangering my FM-3 and legal, if not 'right' at least 'permission,' to stay here?


Probably not, but there's always the risk. Marching in a large crowd is probably fine. Picking up a megaphone and leading a group, petitioning, or publishing without press credentials is what might get you noticed.
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Milenka



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy is right. I have marched with foreign (different nationalities) friends a few times and none of them has ever gotten in trouble. They did have banners and chanted and protested like everybody else.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a story of an American who protested a Bush visit to Merida.

http://www.meridainsider.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=534
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Milenka



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the link to Chris Stenken's story, Guy. What seems most interesting, at least to my Mexican eyes, is the fact that he was joining Mexicans (and other foreigners, I presume) who were demonstrating against the US president, not Mexican politics/policies, which would take this whole discussion to a different arena: how "safe" are Americans protesting their own government abroad? This question has nothing to do with "art�culo 33" from the Mexican Constitution, which I personally find ridiculous.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milenka wrote:
Thanks for posting the link to Chris Stenken's story, Guy. What seems most interesting, at least to my Mexican eyes, is the fact that he was joining Mexicans (and other foreigners, I presume) who were demonstrating against the US president, not Mexican politics/policies, which would take this whole discussion to a different arena: how "safe" are Americans protesting their own government abroad? This question has nothing to do with "art�culo 33" from the Mexican Constitution, which I personally find ridiculous.


Maybe the police cracked down so hard on the protestors (and others) precisely because it was an anti-Bush demonstration.

Art�culo 33 Question
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Milenka



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:


Art�culo 33 Question


Hi MO!

Here is the text of Art�culo 33 of the Mexican Constitution:
ARTICULO 33. SON EXTRANJEROS LOS QUE NO POSEAN LAS CALIDADES DETERMINADAS EN EL ARTICULO 30. TIENEN DERECHO A LAS GARANTIAS QUE OTORGA EL CAPITULO I, TITULO PRIMERO, DE LA PRESENTE CONSTITUCION; PERO EL EJECUTIVO DE LA UNION TENDRA LA FACULTAD EXCLUSIVA DE HACER ABANDONAR EL TERRITORIO NACIONAL, INMEDIATAMENTE Y SIN NECESIDAD DE JUICIO PREVIO, A TODO EXTRANJERO CUYA PERMANENCIA JUZGUE INCONVENIENTE.

LOS EXTRANJEROS NO PODRAN DE NINGUNA MANERA INMISCUIRSE EN LOS ASUNTOS POLITICOS DEL PAIS.

http://info4.juridicas.unam.mx/ijure/fed/9/34.htm?s=
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the citation, Milenka. If I'm not mistaken, most countries (including the land of my birth) have similar prohibitions, though they're not always part of the nation's constitution.
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