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Summer teaching jobs in Canada?

 
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ChrisV



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Summer teaching jobs in Canada? Reply with quote

Next year, I'll be leaving my full-time job in the UK as a univesity ESL instructor to return to full-time education to do an MPhil and, if I can get a scholarship, a PhD. If I do get a scholarship, I'll be studying in the UK for 4 years, but will still need to work in the summers to make ends meet. Working at the UK university summer schools, I can make C$12,000-16,000 for 10-12 weeks' teaching, with that amount being about what I'll need to allow me to survive for the rest of the year. However, if at all possible, I'd really like to spend my summers in Canada (where I'm originally from), so I'm wondering...is there any way of making a similar amount of money teaching in Canada over the summers?

My quals are (or will be by next summer):

CELTA
DELTA
MA English Language Teaching and Applied Linguistics
MPhil (a kind of advanced master's degree) English and Applied Linguistics
12 years' teaching experience, including 4 at the university level
Lots of EAP experience

So, what do you think? Is there any way of making the kind of money I could get in the UK by teaching in the summers in Canada (presumably at universities, but I'm open to ideas)?

Thanks in advance,

Chris
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because there are so many volunteers teaching ESL in Canada, 12,000 - 16,000 can be what you can expect to earn per YEAR teaching English in Canada. Stay in the UK.
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ChrisV



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Because there are so many volunteers teaching ESL in Canada, 12,000 - 16,000 can be what you can expect to earn per YEAR teaching English in Canada. Stay in the UK.


Is that for universities or the general ESL market? The general market here is similar to Canada--10,000 to 16,000 pounds per year (which probably has the buying power of about 12-15K Canadian dollars)--but UK higher education jobs pay a decent salary. I was hoping there might be a similar situation in Canada.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work at a Canadian university. Yes, there were usually a few lucrative summer projects. But they went to teachers on-staff - it would be highly unusual to hire from the outside for such work. And likely would not endear you to the regular staff!
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chan_konabe



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few of the universities and colleges in my area don't actually run the ESL summer programs that take place on campus. Instead, they lease their facilities to private operators. These companies bring in the students and teach them in the university and college classrooms. They hire local undergraduate university students as teachers and, although the wages are at or above average for summer English language teachers here ($18-$25 /hr), your income wouldn't come close to what you quoted above.

As for the serious university and college positions, those are for the insiders as was mentioned above. Vacancies for such positions are rare and, when they do appear, they are highly competitive and you'll need the connections to get them. Often, the instructors at such university and colleges teach in rotating shifts, ex, Instructor A teaches Fall & Spring, Instructor B teaches Spring and Summer, and Instructor C teaches Summer and Fall. So there is always someone around in the summer to run the classes.

A lot of BC school districts in the public school system are now running summer ESL camps for international students. The students range in ages from 13-18. They have English lessons in the morning and then cultural activities in the afternoon - a good mix of fun and study. Some school districts require that the English language teachers have BC teaching certificates, but others don't. The wages can be high ($200+ per day), but, again, they wouldn't come close to what you quoted above because the programs only run in July and August.
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ETG



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Summer teaching jobs in Canada? Reply with quote

If I were you I would start contacting universities now and asking them directly about what they have available, many do offer summer programs themselves.
Lots of language schools offer interesting program like executive business programs.
Also check out the possibilities of substitute teaching at language schools that run summer camps and government programs like the LINC programs offered in each province.
There's a lot out there, but you need to contact people directly. Just decide where in Canada you want to be and fish around for who will hire you.

E.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisV wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Because there are so many volunteers teaching ESL in Canada, 12,000 - 16,000 can be what you can expect to earn per YEAR teaching English in Canada. Stay in the UK.


Is that for universities or the general ESL market? The general market here is similar to Canada--10,000 to 16,000 pounds per year (which probably has the buying power of about 12-15K Canadian dollars)--but UK higher education jobs pay a decent salary. I was hoping there might be a similar situation in Canada.


General ESL market.

10,000 pounds is actually about CDN$20,000- a pound is about $2. That's likely what the university level is like, but I'm not sure.

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A few of the universities and colleges in my area don't actually run the ESL summer programs that take place on campus. Instead, they lease their facilities to private operators. These companies bring in the students and teach them in the university and college classrooms. They hire local undergraduate university students as teachers and, although the wages are at or above average for summer English language teachers here ($18-$25 /hr)


Same in Ontario, except you won't get $18 an hour, you ***MAY*** get $10 but a little less is highly likely. Teaching in that capacity earns you about the same as working at a part time job at a big box store or something. There are so many people with university degrees (often the people who get hired on as teachers in language camps have a university degree and have just finished a one-year TESL certificate through a university or college after finishing their degree, or else have just finished their one year B.Ed after finishing their degree) who just desperately want to be able to do something other than the big box store that private language schools can get away with paying that little.
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ETG



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Summer teaching jobs in Canada? Reply with quote

There are jobs out there in the $25 and over range. Contact employers and you'll discover that esp with your qualifications.
E.
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ChrisV



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:

General ESL market.

10,000 pounds is actually about CDN$20,000- a pound is about $2. That's likely what the university level is like, but I'm not sure.


Sorry, my post should have read 'C$12-20k' (not 15). The exchange rate is roughly 2:1, but that's not an accurate reflection of the buying power of the currencies--$2 in Canada goes a fair bit further than �1 in the UK. The general ESL market seems to be very poor in all the English-speaking countries. I think part of it is the high supply of English teachers, as you noted. I think you can also add the low ability of the consumers to distinguish high-quality programmes from poor ones, especially before they actually turn up for classes, and also the low purchasing power of the typical consumer. That allows the schools to go with a bottom-of-the-barrel strategy without too many adverse consequences for sales, because the average consumer will have a lot of trouble identifying the low quality in question and, if/when they do identify it, they probably won't be able to afford a high-quality programme anyway.

A sad state of affairs, but it doesn't seem to be in much danger of changing.
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ChrisV



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Summer teaching jobs in Canada? Reply with quote

ETG wrote:
There are jobs out there in the $25 and over range. Contact employers and you'll discover that esp with your qualifications.
E.


I'll definitely try contacting universities and community colleges. Any other suggestions concerning likely high-payers in Canada?
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canadashirleyblue



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you are not qualified to teach TESOL in Canada.

The high paying jobs (indeed most of the jobs) will require that.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

?? I'm a US citizen with an MA from a British university (and have legal residence/work permits for Canada) and was employed in a Canadian university for three years. Why wouldn't the OP be eligible?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP is definately qualified to teach ESL in Canada. I think Shirley just meant getting TESOL Canada certification. But actually, the OP said that he had a CELTA, and therefore CAN get TESOL Canada certification, but probably doesn't have it now (and really, it probably won't actually be an issue).

Depending on where in Canada it is, being male (assuming Chris in this case is a male's name) may be a bigger issue, but one that people will try to get around with the ever present catch all for denying jobs-- 'not enough Canadian experience'.
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