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James Hetfield
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 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Argentina 90 day visa renewal US$130? |
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Read AR gov website and your previous posts, but details are vague. Can you confirm the 90 day visa US$130 fee when Americans make a border run every 90 days? Anyone already pay this recently? Sure this fee starts Jan 2009?
If we do have a steady teaching job, do you think we could ask the school to reimburse us for this fee?
US$130 is just about all I might save every 90 days, so it might be a deal-breaker and force EFL teachers to flee AR? |
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Phil_b
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Se Aprobo La Tasa De Reciprocidad
Con la firma de la Presidenta de la Naci�n, Cristina Fern�ndez de Kirchner; del jefe de Gabinete de Ministros y del ministro del Interior, Florencio Randazzo; se aprob� el proyecto de decreto sobre tasas de reciprocidad elevado por el director Nacional de Migraciones, Mart�n A. Arias Duval.
La normativa del Decreto 1654/2008 refrendado el 9 de octubre estableci� en su art�culo primero la �tasa de solicitud de ingreso al pa�s por motivo de turismo o negocios, la que deber� ser abonada al momento de ingresar a la Rep�blica Argentina, por los extranjeros que se encuentren eximidos de la visaci�n consular argentina por motivos de turismo o negocios y que sean nacionales de pa�ses que exijan a lo ciudadanos argentinos el pago de una tasa por la solicitud y/o tramitaci�n de visa consular de ingreso a sus respectivos territorios�.
Entre sus motivaciones, refiere que �a fin de reestablecer la reciprocidad en el trato que se dispensan los Estados involucrados y que se refleja en las exigencias que se imponen unilateralmente a nuestros ciudadanos, se considera oportuno disponer la creaci�n de una tasa de solicitud de ingreso� por un monto equivalente al que deben abonar los argentinos por la solicitud de visa a esos pa�ses�.
Fija adem�s que los fondos provenientes de las tasas percibidas �se destinar�n a la informatizaci�n e innovaci�n en la gesti�n del proceso migratorio, provisi�n de recursos y medios t�cnicos id�neos, como asimismo al mantenimiento y modernizaci�n de las infraestructuras en los puestos de control instalados en las fronteras a�reas, terrestres, mar�timas y fluviales�.
Ser� la DNM la que implementar� el cobro �en los aeropuertos internacionales, puertas y puestos fronterizos, atendiendo a la capacidad operativa, volumen de tr�nsito de personas e infraestructura de los lugares de ingreso al pa�s y establecer� los procedimientos de recaudaci�n�.
En rueda de prensa, Randazzo explic� que la implementaci�n de esta tasa �puesta en pr�ctica ya en Chile y Brasil- permitir� a Migraciones obtener ingresos que se destinar�n a la modernizaci�n de los puestos migratorios, facilitando as� el servicio que brindan a los turistas cuando ingresan. Aclar� que se aplicar� s�lo a aquellos turistas provenientes de pa�ses (como en el caso de Estados Unidos, Canad�, Australia) que le exigen visa a los argentinos cuando ingresan a ellos y su valor depender� del costo de la visa de cada pa�s.
�Nos parece que es un acto de justicia. No les vamos a exigir visa, no les vamos a generar ning�n inconveniente; s� cuando lleguen al aeropuerto tendr�n que pagar un valor similar a lo que le sale al argentino sacar una visa�. |
The actual text of the decree is at
http://www.saij.jus.gov.ar/news/files/decreto1654.html
I'm no lawyer, but I presume that it is officially law as of now... there's no date for when it is likely to actually come in to force - bear in mind that all these processes move slowly in Argentina, especially as the Interior Ministry has to draw up the list....
For those who can't read Spanish the basics are:
1) Argentina will charge a reciprocal fee to all foreigners who a) do not need a visa and b) come from a country that requires Argentine nationals to pay for a visa/entry fee
2) The fee will be charged at every port, international airport and border crossing.
3) It will be the same fee that the tourist's country charges Argentines, converted into pesos at the official rate of the Banco de la Naci�n Argentina
4)The details will be drawn up by the Ministerio del Interior, taking into mind things like Multiple-entry visas - I take that to mean that if a U$130 visa allows Arg citizens multiple entries to the US then the U$130 fee could allow a US citizen multiple entries to Argentina (don't hold your breath on this one)
So.... it's definitely happening - but there are still a few questions to be raised - it certainly makes the $50 overstayers fee even more attractive to US/CAN/AUS teachers in BsAs |
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James Hetfield
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Chile also mentions they now have reciprocity US$130 tourist visa fee for Americans. But Chile is a bit more clear: That fee is PAID ONE TIME ONLY COVERING FUTURE multiple entries every 90 days. But they have a separate local entry fee every 90 days but doesn't mention how much.
Anyone else? Clarification? US$130 every 90 days or one-time only?  |
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Phil_b
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| Art. 3� � El MINISTERIO DEL INTERIOR, previo informe del MINISTERIO DE RELACIONES EXTERIORES, COMERCIO INTERNACIONAL Y CULTO, fijar� en base a un estricto criterio de reciprocidad, los pa�ses alcanzados por la presente medida, el monto de la tasa que se crea, as� como la forma de su aplicaci�n, considerando el plazo de validez de las visas y la posibilidad de m�ltiples entradas. |
That's the exact text - but it's all down to how the Interior Ministry decide it, I suspect that they haven't decided anything yet... It will probably be similar to the Chilean one... |
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