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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leslie wrote:
To teach English-as-a-second language at ITESM (Tec de Monterrey) in Tampico you only need a university degree in any field, and some type of ESL teaching credential, which you have. This is for prepa (high school) and profesional (university). Of course, teaching experience is what most of their teachers have as well.

So, maybe there is hope for you with ITESM.
I think the degree is needed for work visa purposes, and for the university's accreditation and affliation with US university organizations.

ITESM has campuses all over Mexico. Sometimes they hire foreigners full-time. You would need to try and contact the Language/English Director, which you could probably find out by contacting Human Resources.


I had a bad experience at ITESM in Tuxtla, Gutierrez. I gave up a job offer and quit other jobs after being offered a full time job at ITESM. After the Director found out I already lived here, he withdrew the offer and wanted to pay me for 20 hours per week class time and get other services like tutoring, office hours, mounds of paperwork and faculty meetings from me for free.
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leslie



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bye

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: mmmmm Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
leslie wrote:
To teach English-as-a-second language at ITESM (Tec de Monterrey) in Tampico you only need a university degree in any field, and some type of ESL teaching credential, which you have. This is for prepa (high school) and profesional (university). Of course, teaching experience is what most of their teachers have as well.

So, maybe there is hope for you with ITESM.
I think the degree is needed for work visa purposes, and for the university's accreditation and affliation with US university organizations.

ITESM has campuses all over Mexico. Sometimes they hire foreigners full-time. You would need to try and contact the Language/English Director, which you could probably find out by contacting Human Resources.


I had a bad experience at ITESM in Tuxtla, Gutierrez. I gave up a job offer and quit other jobs after being offered a full time job at ITESM. After the Director found out I already lived here, he withdrew the offer and wanted to pay me for 20 hours per week class time and get other services like tutoring, office hours, mounds of paperwork and faculty meetings from me for free.


Interesting post Gallo.... yours isnt the first experience of that type I have heard of.
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pe666



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a full-time Tec teacher, (prepa division.) Working for these guys, you�ll always get paid on time. But there is a whole mountain of paperwork and testing and what-not. The professional �requires� a masters, sort of like I �require� my girlfriends to be super-beautiful, extremely rich and good cooks. (I don�t currently have a girlfriend.) Should point out that working in the Prepa is nothing like working in a university. There is a whole lot of telling them to sit down and be quiet and not a whole lot of academic endeavors. And teachers are kept or fired based on the student evaluations.
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dixie



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pe666 wrote:
And teachers are kept or fired based on the student evaluations.


That's one part of the system that I cannot stand. I never had problems with it but I do find it insane that the feedback carries that kind of weight. Bothers me that the school cannot be bothered to recognize that sometimes the issue is with poor students rather than poor teaching.

Where I currently work teachers in town (although not Mexican) are typically paid the in-country wage, although I got lucky and received the foreign package. Of course, the foreign package only lasts for a set number of years, so if you do decide to stay you lose some of the benefits (mainly a housing stipend). Otherwise I believe the salary pay is standard, regardless of where you hail from.
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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

� believe in student evaluations but to fire teachers based on them can be nothing but a popularity contest. At one school I worked at, a handsome young Mexican teacher taught in Spanish (supposedly against the rules), mostly played games in class and flirted with the girls. They were obviously disappointed when they graduated to an old native speaker who made them speak English, and wanted the other teacher back. Their evaluations reflected their desires. I wasn�t fired but the owner then wanted me to teach in Spanish.

As for Tech, I spent about 10 minutes of each class asking the engineering students who didn�t want to even study English (a requirement) to take off their baseball caps (school rule). The paper work was ridiculous.

After working for various Mexican bosses and school owners, I`m convinced private students is the way to go if you have the patience to market yourself and build up a good reference base and waiting list.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
After working for various Mexican bosses and school owners, I`m convinced private students is the way to go if you have the patience to market yourself and build up a good reference base and waiting list.

I agree, nothing like being your own boss. I'm currently on my third language school and they've all been the same so far, in one way or another. The worst one wasn't actually run by a Mexican. I can see these places dying out. The chains are getting a bigger market share and teachers going independent are picking up the loose ends. What annoys me most about language schools is that for what they offer, they have absolutely no right to expect anything more than a backpacker with a tefl cert, but they do.

I like uni teaching but it can be exasperating. Luckily I seem to do well in the evaluations whether the students fail or not but what can you do if they don't turn up to class? I don't think they should get to evaluate your teaching if they only made it to 3 classes during the entire semester.
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