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James Hetfield

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 99 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Private Tutor adverts without L2 skills? |
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So you're teaching in a nation where you barely speak the local language, not good enough to negotiate a lease, contract, anything at all over the phone or through email. Your school pays so little that virtually all teachers survive by tutoring privates. PROBLEM: How can you advertise your service and negotiate tutoring if you barely know L2, and those potential students responding to your advert barely know English?
In Taiwan I totally relied upon my girlfriend to advertise, answer want ads and negotiate all contracts. Now I'm a stranger in a strange land with no help at all for anything. I cannot hold a phone conversation or negotiate anything in local language. And I need private students.
Any brilliant ideas how you solved this problem and landed some private students without knowing L2?  |
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jonniboy
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 751 Location: Panama City, Panama
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Private Tutor adverts without L2 skills? |
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| James Hetfield wrote: |
So you're teaching in a nation where you barely speak the local language, not good enough to negotiate a lease, contract, anything at all over the phone or through email. Your school pays so little that virtually all teachers survive by tutoring privates. PROBLEM: How can you advertise your service and negotiate tutoring if you barely know L2, and those potential students responding to your advert barely know English?
Any brilliant ideas how you solved this problem and landed some private students without knowing L2?  |
Simple. I advertised only in English. I've found that if you advertise in L2 then people expect you to have at least intermediate L2 level. The worst possible thing you can do in that situation is fumble through phone calls displaying poor languages skills as people think (at least subconciously) "if he's so bad at my language, how good *is he* at English? For appearance purposes I've found that it's better to at least pretend to speak nothing than come off as an amateur.
Of course the best solution is an intensive course in the L2. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Well in Taiwan these days you can find tutoring jobs on tealit without speaking a word of Mandarin. Of course I have one agent that gives me private students and I usually have to speak Chinese to those mothers. The reason they contact an agent is because they cannot speak English in the first place. If they did they would find their own tutor and not pay a fee to an agent. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hand out business cards at every opportunity. Yes, in English for the reasons described above.
Or, MAKE a friend or FIND a translator.
Or, here's a thought...learn the language enough! |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I-ve never been a big fan of tutoring private classes, but those I know who do mostly get business through word of mouth. Meaning that the people who recommend you can help set it up.
Where are you, anyway, James?
Personally, I-d advise against going anywhere that you have to take on private classes right away to survive.
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Advertise in English, for Peru, you can advertise on Expatperu.com , Expat Peru's listserv and Livinginperu.com
Then after a while, it's all word of mouth |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| If you're actually trying to survive upon entry to a country by taking on private lessons, is that legal? Not in Japan, anyway. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Most places I know, it wouldn't be legal.
But how much that matters varies from place to place.
Some places, if it's illegal, you run the risk of serious consequences including arrest or deportation.
Other places, if it's illegal, it's just...illegal. And nothing happens.
Teachers who've been there longer than you, and knowledgeable locals are your best sources to figure this out. But remember that it's you, and not them, who will face the consequences- so go with reliable sources, and double check.
I'll say it again- if a job pays so poorly that you need privates to survive practically from day one, it's not a job I'd be interested in.
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Justin |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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If the OP is somewhere like Poland, it is legal to take on privates, and, yes, it's the little bit extra that can make the difference between barely getting by and doing OK.
And many Central European languages are very tough to learn - it takes some time.
So, yes, for Central/Eastern Europe, advertise in simple English, until you have time to get a grip on the local language. It's the norm in this region. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Quite common practice in Mexico, as well as being very lucrative. Tutoring is the norm for local teachers here to bolster their income though foreign teachers doing so fetch a nice premium.
Advertisng is almost unneccessary as word of mouth will bring in more students than one can handle. If you don't speak a word of Spanish, then you'll usually pick up intermediate level students that have had their fill of local teachers, or that are looking to move abroad, complete a TOEFL test, or work with foreign accents. |
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