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Current financial crisis= you going into TEFL
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littlebadmonkey



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Current financial crisis= you going into TEFL Reply with quote

I just wanted to see if there was anyone else out there who is considering going into TEFL because they are unable to find employment in their country. I have been unemployed for awhile now and it seems like TEFL is my only option. I have only had one interview in approx 4 months. I don't feel I was given an offer because I was super qualified and the employer was looking more for a lifer.

I do love traveling so I see this as an opportunity to travel more. I initially wanted to stay in Europe longer this past summer to teach english as a way to travel more. Looking back I should have stayed given how drastically the US economy has dropped.

I might even consider obtaining a second degree online part time from an american uni or eventually enrolling into an international business school. Then hopefully move back to the US "when" the economy starts to recover.

Anyone else out there in the same boat as me?
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BenE



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am. I tried applying for jobs as the crash happened and watched how the job market just dried up in the space of 3 weeks. There is very little work now. Luckily I managed to get a job as a night porter in a hotel which is full time. I wouldn't however, see it as a long term solution. Therefore I've decided to take a CELTA and see different parts of the world.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to convince my brother to go into TEFL, he's been without work for four months as well. But he's going to hold out and try grad school
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readytotravel



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a job in banking, but I hate it and who knows how long it will last anyway. I am starting a Masters program in TESOL because it is what I've always wanted to do and now seems as good a time as any to start.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People, TEFL is not the panacea to the tightening global economy. Economies in foreign countries are not more stable than those in North America or the UK. You'll find pretty much only subsistence level jobs, with newbie quals- and the job market is only getting tighter.

I am not saying 'don't go.' But I AM saying - it's not a panacea!!!

Actually, readytotravel seems like a GOOD candidate - willing to put in a lot of extra effort.

But this thread might cause a lot of lesser-qualified newbs to think that there is some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It's not there.
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readytotravel



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 15 years ago, I took a four week course in TESL, and landed a job in Cali, Colombia (actually I was offered the job prior to the course as I had a background in experiential education). I was not pleased with the working conditions, so I didn't last long and returned to my job with Outward Bound School. I do hope a Masters will provide me with a decent paying job and good living conditions overseas. If not, oh well, my 401k is gone for now, so I've nothing to lose by getting an education!
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
People, TEFL is not the panacea to the tightening global economy. Economies in foreign countries are not more stable than those in North America or the UK. You'll find pretty much only subsistence level jobs, with newbie quals- and the job market is only getting tighter.

I am not saying 'don't go.' But I AM saying - it's not a panacea!!!

Actually, readytotravel seems like a GOOD candidate - willing to put in a lot of extra effort.

But this thread might cause a lot of lesser-qualified newbs to think that there is some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It's not there.


I agree. I do think, though, that most decent TEFL jobs can at least keep most people living comfortably (meaning, earning a steady wage every month on a reasonable salary FOR THAT COUNTRY). New teachers/prospective teachers shouldn't count on saving much money, but at least they can work for a couple of years as teachers and then think about going home and looking for jobs if/when the economy sorts itself out.

I was already in debt up to my eyeballs before things tanked, so I really haven't noticed much of a difference in my bank account.

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sharpe88



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Current financial crisis= you going into TEFL Reply with quote

Many people have this problem of only going for the kind of job they did before, and their field is too saturated. Sometimes you have to re-invent yourself

littlebadmonkey wrote:
I just wanted to see if there was anyone else out there who is considering going into TEFL because they are unable to find employment in their country. I have been unemployed for awhile now and it seems like TEFL is my only option. I have only had one interview in approx 4 months. I don't feel I was given an offer because I was super qualified and the employer was looking more for a lifer.

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Marcoregano



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true that you won't make a fortune out of TEFL (unless your name's Dave!), but teaching abroad - even if you only break even - surely beats sitting around back home waiting for something to happen.
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BenE



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcoregano wrote:
It's true that you won't make a fortune out of TEFL (unless your name's Dave!), but teaching abroad - even if you only break even - surely beats sitting around back home waiting for something to happen.


That is exactly the reason why I'm going into it. Sure I could quite easily just stay here with my parents for a few years maybe get into an admin job and earn some pocket money.

I really feel have the chance to make progress and move forward and use the skills I have learned alreay by going into teaching English.
(I have studied languages all my life and have a degree in German and Economics)
I really don't see this as just a quick buck or an easy life. I see it as a way forward!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Current financial crisis= you going into TEFL Reply with quote

littlebadmonkey wrote:
I just wanted to see if there was anyone else out there who is considering going into TEFL because they are unable to find employment in their country.
You mean more than usual? People have been doing that for decades.

Most recent types seem to be IT geeks and lawyers. Just the experience I've had looking at resumes and half a dozen forums.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the world falls into the New Great Recession we are seeing hordes of investment consultants and Manhattan lawyers flock into TESOL.
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Nabby Adams



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an idea in evolution that it is the weakest frogs in the pond that decide they can't hack it and bugger off.
Most of them still fail to find a better pond, and some do find a better pond but still perish due to their aformentioned weaknesses.
Some though are lucky and go on to find much better and uninhabited pools of water where they flourish.

This has been the mainstay of TEFLers for as long as there has been TEFL.

I've yet to meet an Alpha frog in the world of TEFL, though I have met some who falsely believe that their recent successes were due to them being so.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've yet to meet an Alpha frog in the world of TEFL


Maybe but at least the TEFLer is not afraid to go for what they want in life instead of sitting in an office for 25 years dreaming about it. Of course there are some strange people in TEFL and maybe I am one of them but at least many of us wanted to travel and live abroad and we went for it.
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nabby Adams wrote:
There is an idea in evolution that it is the weakest frogs in the pond that decide they can't hack it and bugger off.
Most of them still fail to find a better pond, and some do find a better pond but still perish due to their aformentioned weaknesses.
Some though are lucky and go on to find much better and uninhabited pools of water where they flourish.

This has been the mainstay of TEFLers for as long as there has been TEFL.



Not always. Some of us actually chose this field, rather than being sucked into it or falling back on it as a plan B/C/D. I teach not because I couldn't hack it in another job, but because I want to.

I wonder how well those Manhattan lawyers and IT geeks cope as TEFLers, without the salary, creature comforts, and status that they once enjoyed.

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