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Miyazaki
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 635 Location: My Father's Yacht
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not making fun of you, but how long have you been here? These are all normal rants for someone who's been here about a year or so. |
I disagree.
I know people who've lived and worked in Taiwan for many years and they still bitch aboutt hings the OP has mentioned in his/her above post.
Whether people have worked here 20 months or 20 years, it's pretty much always the same crap that tends to set them off.
For me, I hate the place and almost everything about it. However, the hours at my school were so few that I felt like I was in semi-retirement.
It's a dirty, chaotic, hill billy island. |
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BigWally

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 765 Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote this a while ago in some other post....thought it was sort of relevant to the conversation (if nothing to just play devil's advocate of sorts )
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After 2 years....my favorite things...
-the kids
-the people
-friends
-the food
-travel (japan, malaysia, singapore, thailand, cambodia, vietnam, hong kong, macau)
-travel (taipei, hualien, taroko, taidong, maolin, kenting)
-kaohsiung
-my scooter
-cheng ching lake
-the glass box
-taiwan beer
-betel nut
-blue trucks
-7/11
-hilarious attempts at written English
-my hilarious attempts at speaking Chinese
-"Hello, baby!"
-"Waiguoren!"
-HSR
-KMRT
-the 85 story building (which I think is better designed than the 101)
-chijin island
-family mart
-grapefruit green tea
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773
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 213
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| BigWally wrote: |
I wrote this a while ago in some other post....thought it was sort of relevant to the conversation (if nothing to just play devil's advocate of sorts )
| BigWally wrote: |
After 2 years....my favorite things...
-the kids
-the people
-friends
-the food
-travel (japan, malaysia, singapore, thailand, cambodia, vietnam, hong kong, macau)
-travel (taipei, hualien, taroko, taidong, maolin, kenting)
-kaohsiung
-my scooter
-cheng ching lake
-the glass box
-taiwan beer
-betel nut
-blue trucks
-7/11
-hilarious attempts at written English
-my hilarious attempts at speaking Chinese
-"Hello, baby!"
-"Waiguoren!"
-HSR
-KMRT
-the 85 story building (which I think is better designed than the 101)
-chijin island
-family mart
-grapefruit green tea
-monks |
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This is the very first time I have ever heard of blue trucks, beetle nuts, and "Waiguoren!" being on someone's favorites list!  |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Do something. But quit moaning. I'm a native speaker living 10,000 miles from home in a place where native English is gold. You aren't, that's why you don't make 680/hr. Get over it, or find another line of work |
Not to mention being laid off with no pay on holidays. The insecurity of working as an English teacher in Taiwan. Not to mention what would happen if you got really sick. Who will pay your bills? |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I genuinely love Taiwan (been here for 4+ years) and there is probably a great chance I'll be here forever. Like some other posters said, we'd find even more to be annoyed about back home. We do live privileged existences in Taiwan and mostly I feel lucky. Maybe the biggest challenge of all is to always look at life with a "glass half full" approach. Even when you know how good you have it in your head, it's not always easy to FEEL that way. Perhaps, though, it's the most important thing we can do. |
Of course the one thing to about is that at least you and I have the option to leave this place when we want. That is not true for many Taiwanese. |
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pinkflyd7
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 49 Location: Austin, TX (previously Taichung City)
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I can't help but agree with just about everything the OP said. After 4 years in Taiwan, I was happy to leave. Having a Taiwanese wife and two mixed kids, we were like monkeys in a cage in Taiwan. Everywhere we went, people would stare at us and take our pictures.
One day, I took my kids to the park, and I was filming them, when some people came up to us and started to take our picture. So I started filming them. You can see the video here if you want:
http://kenberglund.blogspot.com/2008/04/day-at-park.html
The only thing I miss about Taiwan these days is the food. I miss the "dan bing" in the morning for breakfast. And I miss the "jen ju nai cha" and "low bow gow" at the Chung Shui Tan restaurant. That's it. I don't miss the rude people or the annoying teenagers I used to teach. I don't miss the blue trucks that wouldn't even slow down for a pregnant woman, or the hideous architechture. I certainly don't miss people shouting "waigouran!" whenever I walked outside. I'm quite content to be back in the US, where multi-culturism is widely common and accepted. |
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ramakentesh
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 145
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Wow this forum has changed - last time I was here there was a guy who couldnt handle anyone saying anything about Taiwan at all.
And at that time when i was there i must say I also had a fair bit to say about the place.
Korea was better in many ways. More interesting for a start.
I started out in Beijing which I loved - expected something remotely similar in taiwan and didnt find it at all.
And half the expats i met over there had asperger's syndrome... The hiding place of some very strange westerners... |
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Richard
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 33 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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I agree with a lot of what's been said already.
There are many things about Taiwan I've enjoyed and don't want to come off too cynical, but just to add a few more things I'm sick of after six years (I realize many of these aren't unique to this country):
- being given a paper receipt with my change
- the often-ridiculous stuff you have to watch out for on the road if you drive a scooter in the city
- parents and school admins who tolerate extreme rudeness from kids
- addiction to air-conditioning
- having to prepare, or rather drill, for epic gala kindergarten "graduation" shows for 3-4 months that serve little purpose other than exhausting/stressing out both kids and staff, and giving parents a big flashy bling-bling showpiece so they can "see" where all their hefty tuition went
- constant pandering to parents in general
- "Quic-KUH-ly!" "Huh?" "I want! I want!" "Teacha so hot!" "Inside have...inside have...inside have" "I want to be a ___ because I can have money."
- parents who raise their kids on a diet of fast food, computer games and TV and then wonder why they're non-verbal, fat and lethargic
- on the flip side, kids so obsessed with perfection that they break down in tears over any test score less than 100%
- those damn working Saturdays to "make-up" for previous holidays, or placing a holiday on a Thursday and then having work again on Friday |
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