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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

William,

With the working holiday visa option. you are effectively your own boss.
As long as Bertliz know your plan and are happy with it and you have the contract signed before you leave its something you can consider.

You can use it for up to 12 months in total. .

If you want to keep your options open , after you get here, working holiday might be better, because you might hate the first company and/or job you came to do. Having said that, working visa's (the non holiday variety) are not tied to a company but its poor form to arrive then skip jobs so soon.

Working Visas are also tied to a very specific type of work. There are different ones for working in public schools/language schools; your working holiday will let you work in both and Disney land too if you must :p

There is also a limit to the number of working holiday visas granted per year, so see if you can get one first.

See how long it will take and if its a deal breaker with any company, go for whatever they advise. Just ask them.


Check this link to the Japanese embassy in London, it's good:
http://www.uk.emb-japan.go.jp/en/visa/work_hol.html
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japolak



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

japolak wrote:
So, I applied to Berlitz and they want me to go for an interview. But I'm still not sure if I should or not....

How is the interview process? Do you have to do a demo?
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there is no demo.

Usually if you come across as 'normal' and not too culturally insensitive and are willing to be trained, you won't have any problems.

Also don't put too many restrictions on where they can place you, though generally they will place you very near where you live if you're already in Japan (unless you request otherwise).
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williama



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I had a bit more of a look into the working visa, some things came up. First off.

1)
Either £2,500 in cleared funds (last 3 months bank statements must be shown)
Or £1,500 and a return or onward journey ticket or a receipt for such.
(Traveller's cheques, credit cards and overdrafts are not acceptable as evidence of sufficient funds)
(In the case of a married couple applying for two visas, the minimum amounts are £4,500 and £2,500 respectively.)

So you have to have this amount of money to be able to travel with a working visa.

2)
Intend to leave Japan at the end of their stay.

This is part of the Applicant Prerequisites. My plan was to go to Japan for one year, possibly two...this sounds as though you are only able to stay for one year max? Would there be no way to extend this?

3)
"which allows them to enter Japan for up to one year, and take work for up to one year, incidental to their holiday in order to supplement their travel funds."

From the sounds of this it sounds that you can only take part time work? I did ring up the embasy in the UK as well, and they said the same thing. The work should be part time, not full time. My aim to work full time while I'm over there.

Anyway, thanks for all the help.
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williama



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the link: http://www.uk.emb-japan.go.jp/en/visa/work_hol.html
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like your choice is clear then William, if you don't have all the funds and all the rest of it.

At least if you come with a company they will help set you up here. Perhaps that would suit you best, as you sound more like you want to work properly, rather than prance about the country aimlessly.


Also, generally, be careful when you use the term "Working Holiday Visa" and "Working Visa". They are not interchangeable and are different animals. You will likely get confusing advice from both posters here and various agencies in Japan if you mix 'em up.

Re: not being allowed to work full-time on a WHV: I know of 4 doing it now, and several in the past. Odd. Depends on who is defining "full-time" I suspect
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williama



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My funds arnt too bad, I would probably be ok for a Working Holiday Visa. I though I did make it clear when I was talking about either Working Visa and Working Holiday visa, but I hope I didn't confuse anyone.

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japolak



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, do they hire many teachers without degrees? Because I don't have a degree.
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

williama wrote:
My funds arnt too bad, I would probably be ok for a Working Holiday Visa. I though I did make it clear when I was talking about either Working Visa and Working Holiday visa, but I hope Ididn't confuse anyone.
I would prefer to have a full time job, as my girlfriend is Japanese so I want to be staying in one place for the duration of my stay over there.

I have heard that the best way to get a job would be to travel over there and looks for jobs, once I find one and get a certificate ofeligibility fly back home or to Korea and apply for a visa. Then fly back and start work? Is that a possibility?


You do not need to leave the country in order to change a tourist visa to a working visa. I have done it twice. I believe in days gone by, you had to leave Japan and come back in again.
Of couse , while the thing is being transmuted, you cannot legally work.
Yeah, right. ;P

And to the above poster, I find it highly unlikely Berlitz would employ anyone without a degree for teaching work, as there are too many bodies over here in the queue with degrees. This may sound radical, but why don't you ask them?
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Berlitz does hire people on working holiday visas, but generally just for the summer months (when all the branches tend to be very busy). It would be best to ask them if it is possible to start that way. You can then later change your visa to a regular work visa if they agree to do it.
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japolak wrote:
Also, do they hire many teachers without degrees? Because I don't have a degree.


I haven't read this whole thread so I might be misunderstanding here, but I believe MOST Japanese employers need a degree. Actually, don't you need to show proof of a degree before you can get the correct visa?
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williama



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you have to have a degree to be able to apply for a work visa, it might be different for a working holiday visa though.

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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know you can only have one company sponsor your first working visa, so only one should be applying for a COE. If you have two companies applying for a COE for you at the same time, Immigration will wonder what is going on.

You're going to have to pick one of them, as having a company apply for a COE for you represents a commitment to work for them.
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williama



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right, this is what I was worried about...
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