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hengbrock



Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: New Teacher in Taiwan Reply with quote

I'm looking to move to Taiwan in late April / early May of this year and teach (not sure which age group yet). I am happy to complete an online ESL certification to ensure a job, if necessary. Also, I have read several of the forums saying that Taiwan is pretty safe. I'm hoping that is true for a bigger city like Taipei, which is where I'd like to be.

For people who have lived in or near Taipei:
1. What is a good online source for jobs?
2. Where is a decent spot to live (close enough to the subway so I can find stuff to do)?
3. What can I expect to pay for cost of living, and how negotiable is the salary for someone with a teaching cert vs. someone without?
4. What is there to do? Would I have an easy time finding a gym or at least martial arts lessons?
5. Are there beaches and how far do I have to go to find them?
6. Any other advice, info. you may have?

Thanks, I appreciate any and all advice.

Heather
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surrealia



Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will do my best to answer your questions:

1. Try some of the links here for jobs:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/teachlinks.htm

2. Decent place to live? I think it depends on what you are looking for. Peace and quiet? Nightlife?

3. Here's some information about salaries:

http://www.eslisland.com/guide/Average-Salaries.htm

4. The articles here should give you a good indication of what there is to do in Taipei:

http://www.taiwanfun.com/north/taipei/recreation/index.htm

5. An article on beaches:

http://www.taiwanfun.com/north/taipei/articles/0406/0406Beaches.htm

6. My advice: read over the articles on this website. They should give you an idea of what to expect:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/taiwan.htm
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hengbrock



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you surrealia for your post. I am looking for somewhere that is close enough to walk to some decent nightlife and/or the subway, so I can easily get in an out of cities, access the airport, etc. I am excited to teach english, but I'm also mostly excited to go to the neighboring countries on my vacation time. For that reason, I'd like to be close to the airport.

I'm piecing everything together, except particularly which school and where to live. I have found some very good information in the websites you provided. Thank you.

Heather
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citylightsruralcalm



Joined: 11 Dec 2008
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Location: The Ilha

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can come to my neighborhood. We can play ping pong together.
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hengbrock



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your neighborhood called? I'm awful at ping pong!

Also, to everyone, how does the apartment thing work out there? Do you just show up and get a hotel for a week until you can find a decent apartment or does the school just find one for you? Is it expected to live in shared accommodations?
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surrealia



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taipei and now Kaohsiung both have rail systems, as well as some nightlife and proximity to an airport, so you would probably prefer those cities.

About apartments: some schools will help you find an apartment. In other cases, you will probably want to rely on the foreign community to help you out. It's pretty easy to get your own apartment, although it will be more expensive in Taipei than in other places.


This page has some information on accommodations in Taipei:

http://www.geocities.com/allhou/teachaccom.htm
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enoch83



Joined: 02 Nov 2007
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Location: Taipei, Taiwan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: New Teacher in Taiwan Reply with quote

hengbrock wrote:


For people who have lived in or near Taipei:
1. What is a good online source for jobs?
2. Where is a decent spot to live (close enough to the subway so I can find stuff to do)?
3. What can I expect to pay for cost of living, and how negotiable is the salary for someone with a teaching cert vs. someone without?
4. What is there to do? Would I have an easy time finding a gym or at least martial arts lessons?
5. Are there beaches and how far do I have to go to find them?
6. Any other advice, info. you may have?


Heather


1. Check out tealit.com for local jobs.
2. If you come to Taipei where I live, then almost everywhere is near the MRT, except SanChong. there isnt one yet. But many teachers live/teach out in taipei county like in Banqiao which has the Blue line. jhonghe and yonghe are on the yellow line and xindian is on the green line. if you live/teach inside taipei city then there's virtually no place not near an mrt. (max 15 min walk)
I would recommend somewhere near Guting MRT stop which is pretty central and many foreigners (mostly europeans) live near there b/c they study Chinese at ShiDa Univ. You can get a shared apt for about $8K/month.
3. In Taipei, expect to spend about $30,000/month. teaching certs are worthless on this island, and i imagine an online cert is better suited for wiping your ass than for getting a better salary. dont get an online cert for any reason whatsoever. get a real cert w/ teaching practice, otherwise u wasted your money. schools here require a 4yr degree.
4.there are limitless possibilities for things to do in taipei.
go to night markets, KTV, clubs, pubs, concerts, arcades, bookstores, movies, shopping districts, bike renting and riding, hiking from the MRT, tons of museums, secret brothels (not that you're interested), many gyms, California Fitness is the biggest/most expensive and very western style, lots of gay guys. lots of martial arts schools and yoga gyms.
Taipei is really just like New York City except the whole htings is China Town.
5. The nearest beaach is Baishawan and can be reached by bus in about an hour i think. other beaches are farther like Jinshan and Fulong. but they are easily reached to spend a full day at the beach. you can surf at Jinshan. other surfing is near Ilan and honeymoon bay.
6. bring backup deoderant and maybe tampons. women still prefer the maxipad so tampons may be hard to find. start learning chinese now. it will make life easier. eventually buy a scooter. makes life so much easier. (not that dangerous as everyone thinks/says) and finally, Bring me some sour candy, can't find that sh*t anywhere. oh ya buy a bunch of Mild 7 full flavor ciggs at duty free and sell them on the street for profit. that'll give you a crash course in taiwanese culture haha.
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hengbrock



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha - okay great. I appreciate the responses. I'm looking at schools and finding a job now. Hopefully I can get on this and be there by May. I'll aim to be near Guting, I think that sounds pretty decent. I have a BA, BS and MS, so maybe I'll skip the teaching certificate. I'll skip the secret brothels, but everything else sounds fabulous. I've already planned out the sour candy deal - I've even got friends scheduled to bring it when they come. I'm addicted to it and will DIE without it!
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citylightsruralcalm



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have 3 degrees? OMG!
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hengbrock



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK and now I'm confused - do I need a TESL or ESL or any kind of certificate outside of a degree? I'm reading conflicting information on this board!
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enoch83



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Location: Taipei, Taiwan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as I know, and i've worked at two different schools and interviewed w/ several others, none have ever required a cert, and having one didn't warrant a higher salary. its a big generalization to say you dont need one to work in taiwan, but most schools don't require it. imo you;ll be fine w/o one.

if u want to live near Guting, in the DaAn district, its pretty easy to find a place if you go down to ShiDa univ and go to the Mandarin Language center and check the boards (real boards not online Wink and you can find a room pretty easily. when u first arrive a decent hostel to stay at downtown is Holo Family hostel at 50 zhongqiao fuxing west rd outside taipei train station. its on the 23rd floor i believe, in the lonely planet as well. they'll give u a longterm rate if u stay there for a couple weeks trying to get your housing figured out.
from what i know, most schools don't provide housing, but i think some do if you go through a recruiter that brings you from the states. i've never done that so i'm not sure. maybe someone else can chime in
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't get you more dosh but if you don't have a degree you will need a TESOL certificate.
You CAN find positions here with an associate diploma plus a TESOL although I'm not sure if you can get work with a college diploma ... I'm not saying you can't find work with a college diploma just that I don't know if you can or not.
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enoch83



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya i agree w/ the above, i think the only reason you would need a cert is if you have an associate (2 year) degree, in which the case of the OP, this is not an issue so...
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