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girlcabbie
Joined: 26 Nov 2008 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: Dating Mexican Men? |
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Ok, ladies, not to go all Cosmo or anything, but anyone have dating experiences they can share here?
Good, bad or funny? What cultural pitfalls to avoid? Words of wisdom? |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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That's a pretty broad question....Not all guys are created equal. That especially does apply to Mexico, where the cultural differences are plenty and take much time to learn! (I speak from experience, still learning after 8 years of marriage!). I have seen way too many broken hearts and empty wallets in my years living in a tourist area. It's not really something anyone can give advice on, except to say, don't throw your dating rulebook out the window, especially in a Mexican beach town where the locals work with tourists and where they learn some pretty good lines, in English, early on. Their livelihood depends on it. If you are just passing through and want to have fun, there will be no shortage of guys who will allow foreign women to buy them cervesas!  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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My only bit of advice on this is to mention that it's quite common for married men here to have affairs. That's not saying it's acceptable...just common. A little heads-up to you. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Another bit of advice, from recent personal experience, is that many Mexican men talk a good line but being honest about how they feel about you is not one of their finest qualities. Apologies to all sincere Mexican men who may be reading this post!  |
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Mrs L
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 72 Location: Rainy England
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree with Samantha about not throwing the rule book out of the window. Take the same precautions you would at home and don't get carried away just because the sun is shining and it all seems romantic. If a guy seems like he's too good to be true he probably is, and you have to be careful that men giving you attention aren't just interested in every foreign girl because they think they're easy, rich, or both. Time will tell if a man is genuine or not.
As for what Guy said about married men, it's true. Lots of Mexican men don't wear wedding rings, and any 'single' men you meet at parties could have a wife tucked away at home that they're not telling you about.
Don't let any of this put you off though, get out there and have some fun!! |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
My only bit of advice on this is to mention that it's quite common for married men here to have affairs. That's not saying it's acceptable...just common. A little heads-up to you. |
Yeah, I don't know any Mexican guys that are faithful to their wives/girlfriends and I've been here nearly 4 years. I asked a fellow teacher who'd been here more than 10 years, got married, had kids, got divorced if he knew of any faithful Mexican men and he said he didn't either.
On the upside it seems fairly easy to catch them from what I've heard. And there are always exceptions to any rule. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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LWH wrote:
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And there are always exceptions to any rule. |
Since when was it declared a "rule" that all Mexican men should be unfaithful? Painting an entire nation with one brush is not cool. I was married to Brit first time around, yet I still think some of you must be good guys!
Cheating seems to make up a good portion of the Dr. Phil episodes and last I checked he doesn't film in Mexico. Unfaithfulness is not unique to the Mexican culture (or just the men for that matter, because there are women playing around out there too. Yes, Mexican wives, guys. EEK!).
Anyway, I think the point has been made that the OP, who is new to Mexico and landed in a tourist area, should be aware that not all sharks are in the sea. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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The only thing I'd add is to go above and beyond what you would normally do to make sure that both of you are on the same page, relationship wise. What the typical gringa would take as a friendly chat with a guy you just met, he may very well think he's already made it to first base!
I certain I know several Mexican married men who have never cheated. (My own husband included).
No matter what the nationality, every women deserves a partner who is as committed to her as she is to him (or her if that's her fancy.) Do not accept anything less. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Mrs L wrote: |
Don't let any of this put you off though, get out there and have some fun!! |
And keep in mind what a Mexican female friend advised me last year: Have fun but don't take any of it seriously!  |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: infidelity and more |
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It has been a very open subject in several of my English classes and students will bring it up without my prompting their doing so. In one class students openly talked about the infidelities of a married student who was casting his net about looking for an amante with the student in question present to overhear their conversation. This was done with only minor embarrassment to the student in question.
I�ve had a company vicepresident discuss for an hour how sexy his wife was, go on to talk about how attractive other women are, finish class and walk over to an attractive secretary, flirt with her and come up to me again while I am departing and brag that it would be only a matter of time before the woman would succumb to his charms. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
LWH wrote:
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And there are always exceptions to any rule. |
Since when was it declared a "rule" that all Mexican men should be unfaithful? Painting an entire nation with one brush is not cool. I was married to Brit first time around, yet I still think some of you must be good guys!  |
Sorry, bad wording. I think exceptions to any generalisation was more along the lines of what I was looking for. Dr. Phil isn't a real doctor though.
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I�ve had a company vicepresident discuss for an hour how sexy his wife was, go on to talk about how attractive other women are, finish class and walk over to an attractive secretary, flirt with her and come up to me again while I am departing and brag that it would be only a matter of time before the woman would succumb to his charms. |
Sounds like nearly every company class I've ever had. Worse when they start talking about business trips. I'm still amazed at how men can talk about their wife and kids, and in the same breath talk about amantes and whatnot. And the bragging? What is that about? |
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bje
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 527
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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[Sounds like nearly every company class I've ever had. Worse when they start talking about business trips. I'm still amazed at how men can talk about their wife and kids, and in the same breath talk about amantes and whatnot. And the bragging? What is that about?[/quote]
Possibly no more than the customary 'ego'....yawn... |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: difference between the cultures |
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I have to question some of the experiences that some of my female gringo friends have and what prompted them. In some cases, they have been women who are particularly vulnerable to charm and flattery, quite often the mark of a predatory male. It�s easy for some males, Mexican and otherwise, to make themselves attractive with their ease at verbal skills. It is to their extreme advantage in their conquest of members of the other sex to be engagingly flirty or charmingly lavish in praise and compliments.
Some women see this for what it is, so much bs with a single purpose in mind. Such women seek men who are more substantial, faithful, less flattering and more truthful, even the mildly critical kind. Lower the ego level on both sides and you will end up with a more intimate relationship.
Such comments aside, yes, there is a more open display and acceptance of the wandering eye in Mexican culture than elsewhere. In the U.S. the cheated upon wife gets quick revenge. She gets the house, the IRA, the kids, the car, the swimming pool, etc. etc. leaving the poor male who could not keep his pecker in his pants financially distraught. The American male has to keep his pecadillos below the radar. He can�t afford to tell his co-worker, his bar friends, his siblings about his sexual affairs. Who knows among all his confidantes which will blow the whistle, scoop the ex-wife and his hard earned assets. You would have to be a fool in the states to brag about your sexual exploits unless your assets were nonexistent. |
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leslie
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 235
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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leslie wrote: |
I'm not convinced that it is more common for men to cheat - in general or in Mexico. I'd like to see statistics or research.
This is because my experience has been different. Yes, there has been the odd man who brags about his conquests or womanizing, however, most of the men that I have taught do not brag or say anything about cheating except to say that it's wrong.
So, why is my experience different than the other posters. Maybe because I'm a middle-aged woman?
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I don't have any statistics to offer leslie, but I do feel that it's much more expected here that men will cheat on their spouses and novias than it is in the US.
I have never had a male student brag to me about his extra-marital sex life, perhaps because, like leslie, I am a middle-aged woman. Also most of my classes have been one-on-one, and so there's no one to brag to except me! Perhaps in a small group of men, maybe with a male teacher, there's the temptation to talk about sexual exploits to show off and show up the others in the class.  |
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