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private lessons vs. working for school

 
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rucontent



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: private lessons vs. working for school Reply with quote

any thoughts on scratching out a living on private lessons vs. working for a school?

I can imagine that private will take a moment to get a clientele, advertising, whatever else....... but besides the criteria for hustle... any comments about drawbacks about either....too many?

you can even ramble if you like.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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Location: New York

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides what you'd already mentioned, the main disadvantages for private students I can think of:
* They often cancel at a whim;
* Inconsistent;
* If the student has a boring personality, teaching one-on-one can be a bit of a drag;
* Lack of interaction with other students (in group/pair work, for example);
* Privates can leave for a while. For example, in Russia, 90% of my privates are gone for all of August and January due to holidays-- therefore inconsistent pay;
* It can be an issue where to hold the lessons;
* It may be legally problematic to have private students (things like taxes, being an independent contractor, etc.).

Advantages:
* Work for yourself--you're dependant on yourself to make as much as you'd like;
* Fewer behavior problems;
* You can pick who you want to teach;
* It can be in a very comfortable place (a quiet cafe, or someone's home, for example);
* You can mostly set your own schedule.

I currently teach both privates and hold down a FT teaching job. However, in the future I hope to only teach privately while doing IELTS examining. I can feasibly make as much focusing on privates as if I'd just go solo, and would have more time to spend with my family. The biggest thing holding me back is having that consistent salary (very important when you have a family to support).
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you shooting for? Japan?
Can't live on private lessons unless you've lived here a long time and acquired the contacts and have somehow managed to secure the right visa.

P.S. There is no work visa that allows you to work solely on private lessons.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Where are you shooting for? Japan?
Can't live on private lessons unless you've lived here a long time and acquired the contacts and have somehow managed to secure the right visa.

P.S. There is no work visa that allows you to work solely on private lessons.



Ditto in China, living on private lessons, probably can be done quicker, but there is no visa that allows you to do this
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Mexico it is possible to get a work permit that allows you to teach independently and support yourself solely with private classes. Several people I know here in Mexico City make a living that way, including myself!
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rucontent



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So i take it, that it depends where you want to do privates. Interesting thanks for the comments. At this moment i will be in Cuzco. I speak Spanish and am a Native English Speaker as well and i am looking to stay in Latin America, but who knows. Thanks for the info.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Building up enought privates is a negative point as wel.
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Mike_2007



Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 349
Location: Bucharest, Romania

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
* They often cancel at a whim;
* Inconsistent;
* If the student has a boring personality, teaching one-on-one can be a bit of a drag;
* Lack of interaction with other students (in group/pair work, for example);
* Privates can leave for a while. For example, in Russia, 90% of my privates are gone for all of August and January due to holidays-- therefore inconsistent pay;
* It can be an issue where to hold the lessons;
* It may be legally problematic to have private students (things like taxes, being an independent contractor, etc.).


Most of these points can be struck off the list by setting yourself up as a freelancer. Once you can sign contracts and issue invoices you can target the corporate clients and get paid for no-shows, set the holiday periods in writing and hold lessons in their offices. Once you know how many weeks per year you'll be teaching and how many hours per week, it's simple enough maths to work out your monthly income as an average and negate the effect of the summer/winter holiday periods.

It can take a while to get a full schedule of privates, granted, but if you are working for yourself and looking to make an income you can live off you should take it seriously enough to do a lot of promoting, advertising, mailing and other activities with a view to decreasing the build-up period significantly.

Good luck,
Mike
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go for little kids, my students are age 5 to 12. All diplomat kids. NO contract, they pay me AFTER I teach a month or so of classes. We have a trusting relationship. BUt if I were to start with someone I didn't know, I'd make them pay at least half upfront.


I'm at the point that I have 20 hours and a possible 3 more a week. I'm considering not going back to teach at uni because I'd be too busy with bussing around for 3 hours a day.
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