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naturegirl321
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| wfh wrote: |
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| Stephen Jones wrote: |
| You'll find people do check for the Bachelors before the Masters in the Gulf (which is fun for those with degrees from the older Scottish Universities). |
WHy's that? Older Scottish unis gave MAs without needing BAs? |
Yep, students graduate after three/four years with an MA degree instead of a BA. |
Does that still happen now? Sounds like a good deal. I think education is all about quality and not quantity. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: NO DEGREE = NO FUTURE |
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| My degree is superfluous in reality but still opens doors for me. If you do get an MA + CElTA/tefl etc why not lie about a batchelors. Say you mislaid it. They will assume you have one if you have a masters. |
Don't lie. If you're ever caught, you risk some serious penalties, losing your job being only the start.
Don't know about where you've applied in the past, but in Japan, most employers and certainly immigration won't let you in the door without seeing the parchment. |
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wfh
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| wfh wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Stephen Jones wrote: |
| You'll find people do check for the Bachelors before the Masters in the Gulf (which is fun for those with degrees from the older Scottish Universities). |
WHy's that? Older Scottish unis gave MAs without needing BAs? |
Yep, students graduate after three/four years with an MA degree instead of a BA. |
Does that still happen now? Sounds like a good deal. I think education is all about quality and not quantity. |
yes it still happens, and yes it's extremely high quality and a good deal (in my experience). |
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roywebcafe
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Re: NO DEGREE = NO FUTURE |
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I do have a degree + Tefl BTW. It just doesn't add anything to ELT but does get me the job to begin with.
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| roywebcafe wrote: |
| My degree is superfluous in reality but still opens doors for me. If you do get an MA + CElTA/tefl etc why not lie about a batchelors. Say you mislaid it. They will assume you have one if you have a masters. |
Don't lie. If you're ever caught, you risk some serious penalties, losing your job being only the start.
Don't know about where you've applied in the past, but in Japan, most employers and certainly immigration won't let you in the door without seeing the parchment. |
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slaqdog
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Where I work -CIS-they are totally hung up on seeing the original degree-paper counts for a lot out here; which is a pain in the arse when recruiting because people with great and valuable experience get turned down because we just cannot get the work permit. It may seem stupid but not having a degree limits your options.
A PGCE might be an option but I don't think the countries that demand a degree would accept that on its own-or an MA.
So the question is; Is it worth all that slog to get the degree and open a few more doors? If you are in it for the long haul yes: then a degree in Tesol/Tefl/Esol is probably the way to go and the cheapest option is back to the homeland for a three year slog on the breadline.
You never know you might learn something.... |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003
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Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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| the trades are in big demand in canada--i know because i spend all my time reading the paper while trying to finish my worthless BA. bartenders make lots and can travel too, ask any fake irish bar owner...but seriosly, trades are good if you have the inclination |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| slaqdog wrote: |
Where I work -CIS-they are totally hung up on seeing the original degree-paper counts for a lot out here; which is a pain in the arse when recruiting because people with great and valuable experience get turned down because we just cannot get the work permit. It may seem stupid but not having a degree limits your options.
A PGCE might be an option but I don't think the countries that demand a degree would accept that on its own-or an MA.
So the question is; Is it worth all that slog to get the degree and open a few more doors? If you are in it for the long haul yes: then a degree in Tesol/Tefl/Esol is probably the way to go and the cheapest option is back to the homeland for a three year slog on the breadline.
You never know you might learn something.... |
But why would they give a rat's behind about a bachelor's degree if you have a higher degree? |
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Antaraaaa
Joined: 04 May 2004
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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